USA or WDA? Breed Dynamics In The US - Page 13

Being a dues paying member.

Seby I interpreted it as being a current member of the WDA itself (paying dues, current membership card).  I believe you can be in a WDA club and not be a WDA member, at least when I was we could have a WDA club with a minimum of 5 WDA members so not everyone was required to be a WDA member to train (but your club bylaws can require that everyone in the club be a member).

Thank you.

And yes Kevin, it is a free country, but being a UScA member will limit my freedom at this time.

Well in my opinion, you can take 5 members from any organization, ask them the same question and you might get 5 different answer. Driven by the same goal, having same ideology, but reasoning behind it could be completely different.

To sum it up, I personally think that JA amendment did hurt UScA more than help.
Maybe not the whole organization, but individual clubs, especially small ones.
Instead of my family membership dues ($150.00), they will get $30.00 surcharge fee for a Sieger Show.
But my entry fees, which go to a local club, for couple of trials and few shows (around $800.00-$1000.00) are not being replaced with anything.

Seby,

As I said, I am completely respectful of your reasoning and genuinely wish you well.

Best to you,

Kevin

Same to you Kevin.

If I may add... I think every country should have only one National Breed Club.
I could never understand " double" concept in the US.
Like making exactly the same car under 2 different brands....
But it is just me......

Seby.
You might wish to contact the powers that be at UScA about your SV membership and the Sieger Show.  I believe you will find it will not get you into the Sieger Show so as well as UScA losing your $150, it will also require you to pay a membership due to the GSDCA.  A double whammy, which was the point of my earlier post.
Good luck to all!
david

The stupidity never ceases to amaze me. Can anyone point out one constructive thing, just one, I'm not difficult the JA accomplished? Didn't think so. In fact as pointed out here. If you were not a USCA member and you wanted to participate......You could participate by joining ONE OF THE COMPETING CLUBS! Yes the the JA grand scheme of destruction and preservation. Those dues paying members who left could actually participate in ALL USCA EVENTS by becoming a DUES PAYING MEMBER OF ONE OF THE COMPETING CLUBS. It's evident this thing was never thought completely through and the only thing worse than it's implementation is it's defense.

It always sounds good to be able to sound exclusive and say the dues paying members shouldn't be slighted in an organization by offering services to non dues paying members. Someone gets something for nothing. Really? So the organization doesn't benefit from offering their services and have non members pay to enter events and pay a surcharge for their entry? Lets do some math. USA gets how much for a non member that does not enter. Let me add that up. Lets see....that plus that, add that and the total is ,,,,,,zero. Now that non dues paying not a member of our exclusive club should not get to use us for free guy enters a USA event, pays the surcharge, buys a catalog, the girlfriend a hotdog and himself a cheeseburger and 20 raffle tickets. Lets see 60.00 bucks for the entry, 20 bucks for the one day one event entry surcharge, 10 bucks for the catalog, 3 bucks for the hotdog and 6 for the cheeseburger, 20 bucks for the raffle tickets,,,,,,let me see,,, add that up and if it's more than Zero I think I have a good case that those non dues paying shouldn't get to go and play in our sandbox people have something to offer. Maybe that's just me.

Takes me back to OBGS' figures. He's go the numbers. Verified and certified. He just doesn't know what they mean. One year 300 bucks? Yep that what the event netted after the JA drove away the show dogs. Not much of a contribution to the club? On that we can agree. This past show where the disenchanted WDA members saw the writing on the wall and thought it may be a good idea to participate again before the NASS is your only option.....24 THOUSAND DOLLARS. THAT"S the JA impact. Don't you see it? The removal of the JA will open the door for the opportunity. 

OK enough about the stupid JA. Take it or leave it it doesn't matter. Think this thing out as some smarter than me have. If the JA goes away. It makes going back easy. If it doesn't go away what are your choices. I'm talking to the show people here. Do you repeat the debacle that occurred this year. Will you expose yourself to the same abuse and like Charlie Brown try one more time for that which should be yours only to have it taken away at the last minute show

Randy,

One constructive thing the JA accomplished, you ask?

It reflected the will of UScA's membership.  Most could care less about how large we are as long as we remain viable.  Most do care about strong associations and subservience to organizations who do not share our common values regarding the German Shepherd Dog namely those of the GSDCA.  

They (the majority of UScA members) are all clearly "stupid."

As am I.

Regards,

Kevin

This entire situation boils down to in the United States, the AKC is the big fog in the fight and the germans and the rest of the international dog wortld are bound to status quo.

Kevin,

Nothing personal directed at you. What I find stupid is; an organization condemed another organization and in an effort to discredit, financially impact, or whatever the JA was supposed to do, actually gave the competing organization it was trying to do whatever it was trying to do a boost. If you were not a USCA member you could and still can participate in all, repeat all, USCA events by being a GSDCA member. People gave up their USCA membership to Join the GSDCA so they can participate in USCA events through the WUSV agreemenrt. Does that make sense? See what I mean?


So the USCA stand and conviction of their member supported ideals is the one positive benefit of the JA. I'll accept that. How is it in any way different than those of the WDA and why does USCA feel they need to prohibit membership in other clubs to accomplish it? How is all that worth the lost revenue the club incurred to circumvent the JA?