Breeder Rights? Breeder Greed? - Page 13

Molly not everyone that has a different opinion of you is a moran or unethical or crazy.......

Sometimes people just feel differently then you, doesn't mean they have an agenda or are defincient in any ways.

Morons are those who come on a thread like this, who can't read english or who won't read the facts before opening their mouths and spouting their rumors, gossip and false information to create more drama.

Beetree, in response to yet another of your stupid moronic statements in the other thread - There are TWO contracts signed by both breeder and deceased owner.  TWO dogs bred by myself, who carry my kennel name and my name as breeder of record, and placed into the care of this owner along with their paperwork and CONTRACTS SIGNED FOR BOTH DOGS.  Got it yet beetree?   I know it is difficult for you to comprehend FACTS, so I'll say it again - there are TWO CONTRACTS, ONE FOR EACH DOG.  The replacement pup was chosen and reserved for the owner, and "sold" to her as usual still under contract no matter that no money changed hands for her.

Really, this thread has run it's course don't you think?  The contract I used was meant for two people to agree on terms in the purchase of a dog from breeder to new owner.  The owner expected that I would honor my part of the signed contract should anything happen to the dog ie health or temperament issues - and I did honor it, far beyond my written contract because the problems in the first dog were not proven to be genetic, and happened long after the end of the basic health guarantee, had nothing to do with hips/elbows (the dog is OFA Excellent) and so I was under no obligation to give any refund or replacement - yet I did anyway, because that's how I do "business" and always have. At the same time the breeder expected that the owner (or representatives of the owner in this case) would honor her part of the signed contract should the dogs need to be placed for any reason.

So, the breeder got the short end of the stick when the "friends" decide to not honor the contract signed and agreed by the owner, and now breeder is forced to make a new, legally binding contract, after 20 years of my "honor system" contract that worked so well for so many years.  What a shame.

molly

How did you get the short end of the stick Molly?  Is the home not one you would place a dog?  Aren't they people that trained with the owner, and seem to care about the dogs?

If the home is good, the dogs win.  And that's what it's suppose to be about, isn't it?

well that would only be guessing on my part woudln't it Betty - since I  have no idea where the dogs are, who they are with, or what sort of care/training they are or aren't getting.  Noone has bothered to gift me with that information.  And  no Betty "they are in good homes, don't worry about them" isn't good enough.  I didn't sell them the dogs.  I sold the owner the dogs.  I choose my puppies' owners very carefully.  Would I have chosen these homes for these dogs?  Maybe so.  Maybe not!  But I can't know that with zero information other than words of empty promises with no names behind them.

molly

Well  perhaps if you stop insinuating that they are crooks or have ulterior motives  and call them and tell them you are only interested in the welfare of the dog you may find the peace of mind you crave.

You know extend the olive branch, sometimes hard to do but if the welfare of the dogs is your first priority it shouldn't be that hard.

Oh, and then there is always the way you play "keep away" with dogs out of plain old SPITE. So pick one or both, greedy or spiteful, LOL from what 4 pack brought up, it could just be more about who you do not want to have control of those dogs DNA! Eureka!

Quoted from Molly

"And  no Betty "they are in good homes, don't worry about them" isn't good enough.  I didn't sell them the dogs."

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Molly, that is not what I wrote.  Please re-read my post,  I wrote "if".  I'm sure you will agree that that is a very big difference.

You've talked to their attorney, you talked to them enough to get the feeling they were animal right activists......  So talk to them some more. 

How did it go from wanting them away from the people who have them because you don't like them (they're AR activists, anti-SchH, anti-breeder, etc.) to "I don't know where they are or who they're with?"

My thoughts exactly Jenn and was my point, posting from the other forum. Molly's words change as she sees fit. I was posting what I"thought"were "facts" Molly, they came from you as the source so if your assuming things, how can we not? The only thing I spouted was the "rumors, gossip and false information" you posted on another forum. Don't get pissy and call me a moron for looking further into your bogus crap! The way you wrote it made it sound to me like the spaying of the younger dog was the end of the world.

Also we have already established that your contract is full of holes and has nothing to do with repoing a dog after an owners death.

You have also posted that the dogs are in good hands, so which stories are we to believe? Good hands and you are leaving this alone or you have no idea who the dogs are placed with or how they are? You can't have it both ways! Either way, I feel I have proven to myself your a lying POS. End of story for me. You couldn't be so stupid as to think you were the only person who were a member of the same 2 forums and that no one would put these mismatched stories together did you?
 

"The owner signed two contracts for dogs I bred, as well as verbally understood and agreed to give me first right of refusal to get the dogs back if FOR ANY REASON they needed to be placed."

LOL. So sue them for breech of contract. And then, poop in one hand and wish in the other, see which fills up first when the "owner" fails to comply. Only Molly would think she still controls people after they are dead. LOL