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 Producing dogs with high Thresholds is GOOD! Has no bearing on their ability to be serious on the field or in Law Enforcement, and in fact, makes for a rock-solid dog that doesn't go bonkers at every little movement and or noise. People like to see low threshold dogs that explode at the slightest nothing - but often that is more a sign of poor nerves and insecurity than a sign of any "seriousness".

High Threshold dogs can sometimes be mistaken as low drive dogs when still puppies, but as the dog matures, the drives emerge, and the ability to react appropriately to a threat will come out with  training. 

I personally believe that people who intentionally breed for low threshold are inadvertently breeding for poor nerves. 

Well I disagree. 

A dog with very high thresholds will still be waiting for the threat while you're on the floor  bleeding to death.  You shouldn't have to TRAIN for a protective dog.   That's the problem with breeding for sport or prey. 

The GSD by nature is supposed to be aloof and wary of strangers.  A dog can be confident and still alert at the first sign of a threat. It doesn't have to necessarily mean poor nerves.

In reading this post,  I appreciate the cost, time and commitment necessary to bring a dog to "great dog status"  and a lot of $ on advertising. 

I'll put my Urxi z Blatenskeho Zamku up to those on the list.  The only reason he did not stay in Czech Rep for nationals is his owner had to sell him.  

Then there is Zar Milvel,  whale of a pedigree, super nerve, bite, produced a few litters and very well.

I have to toot my horn once in a while. 

There are some excellent dogs out there that were at the high end of their production yet go mostly unnoticed because of lack of advertising. 

In NY is an older dog, Ron von haus Bernhardt Mader x Cimi Iluze son that is truly amazing.   

and a Pascha Ga Ta x Brona z Katerinsky Brany son that is up and coming for producing police working dogs.  

Hill ze Slovanskeho domu?  two years ago, new pups now patrol dogs. 


thanks!
Nancy Rhynard
www.westwoodkennels.com

Nancy:

          I agree there are many good dogs out there to be bred to if one takes the time to look and investigate. Titles are the last thing to impress when choosing a breedable male or female. Show me the dog and screw the fancy titles on the paper.

I want to see the dog work not read about him. It,s a plus when they are titled but certinely not the whole equasion

 Quote: There are some excellent dogs out there that were at the high end of their production yet go mostly unnoticed because of lack of advertising.

This is very true. I have seen some really really nice dogs that never got bred so we could see what the dog might produce because the owner had no interest in breeding. That is always a shame.

Quote:  People like to see low threshold dogs that explode at the slightest nothing - but often that is more a sign of poor nerves and insecurity than a sign of any "seriousness".

When I talk about a dog with low thresholds, I am not talking about a dog like that EVER.

The hips will be done on the dogs, there are already x-rays. I would love to live somewhere in France where there is a club every 5 miles or so, but I do not. I have seen enough titles to know that it is not going to make much difference to me. 

I like to see people tooting their own horn, and showing video of the dog they have. Never know when you will see a dog you have never heard of, and see all the things you like to see in a dog. That is something that I would like to see more of. That, and a little thicker skin. I see someone is crying MOD MOD MOD already. LOL 

Just don't read the thread, or skip over molly and I's silly shit. LOL

But on the other side of the coin, there's more than enough "patrol dogs" (active or not) that aren't worth a damn, or maybe are, but don't produce well.

Urxi's linebred 3,4-4 on Klara?  Given the history on that, are his hips certified?

Thats why it,s important to look and investigate .

If regarding bitework, for liability reasons, you're probably not going to be able to work a patrol dog yourself, and many LEO's don't know the first thing about helperwork to display the dog to the viewer's best vantage, including Zar's handler.

Yah the downfall of the USA and breeding in this country is that you dont get to see a lot of very good dogs. I like to go to trials and watch the males work. I have a female I will be breeding this upcomming year if we finish at least Sch2 by November. I have gone to many trials to see the dogs work... I am heavily dissapointed so far and hopefully newer dogs will come out. I have not find a dog that i would consider so far.
When I was in Carson City I missed couple of my favorite dogs protection so I have to go To the Working dog Champ to watch tem. But truthfully, I could care less how heavily one dog is advertised.. I always make sure I see the dogs work. I can read a dog..I dont need somebody telling me how the scores are! I want to see the dog!

So the best studs? I dont know because there is not such a thing as a best stud! One can produce some shitty dogs with the wrong female and another can produce a very nice dogs with different female. First, look at the dog, if you like what you see, look at the pedigree and if you like what you see than do the breeding.. matching pedigrees only or breedin to popular studs is STUPID! (in my book)

I love how some breeders buy a stud and breed all the females to him... that is wonderful.. makes me wanna go puke!

Oh and to the titeling: I live in a shit state for clubs and training. I have only one club here and I dont belong to it because I have dogs I have.. ( I am fortunate to have a fabulous helper). So I track by myself. I do OB mostly bymysles and ast strangers in parks to stand for me for a group? I ask strangers if I can put my dogs in Long down while they play with their dogs and I travel! I travel average 7 hours at least to trials. It sucks as I dont have the advantage of home field but most of the time. When you want you find a way when you dont you find an excuse... find a way and stop making excuses!
In SLovakia I had 4 trials in a month I was spoiled rotten but hell it gets done..but one has to have a good helper for sure!

Snow tracking it is today!