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by Jenni78 on 07 January 2012 - 17:01
Betty is right; 7 is manageable; let's focus on what is right in this situation, not all that's gone wrong. I'm the worst offender. But what's done is done and won't help Reign any.
by Betty on 07 January 2012 - 18:01

by Jenni78 on 07 January 2012 - 18:01
I sure hope we get an update soon on Reign's condition. The quicker those pups get her milk/colostrum the better off they will be.

by Divr01 on 07 January 2012 - 18:01
We have clinic here in my area. they care more about the money than the animal. I told the owner the same and we are banned from the clinic.
I am not in your area, but let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
Mike
by stary_eyed_angel on 07 January 2012 - 20:01
I did ask and Reign has been able to nurse her puppies. Victoria is helping to supplement them while their mom recovers. Hopefully she'll still get a good milk supply despite being weakened from this awful ordeal. Part of the problem with the ER clinic was they kept passing her off to different vets and each one wanted to push more oxytocin despite Reign being completely exhausted to the point she just couldn't push anymore. It took an owner getting angry for them to decide to do the c-section. Probably wanted to get her out of their at that point. I don't think she has any intention of ever using this ER again (she said there are others, they just were't an option last night) but if she has to at least she knows now to go in guns blazing and then they might actually listen.

by yellowrose of Texas on 07 January 2012 - 20:01
Yes after each experience you learn who is in control and what to do...My trainer always said..you learn on the first one and then after the rest is better..
Call in some friends to stand by \while you sleep...please....
I would pack up and come but you live toooooooo far ..
YR


by dogshome9 on 07 January 2012 - 22:01
Thank god Reign is fine -- I hope that she recovers quickly and that she is able to take over and care for the litter.
Victoria, concentrate on the puppies that you have and try not to dwell on those that were lost 7 puppies will still be hard work both for you and Reign.

by Judy P on 07 January 2012 - 23:01

by goodknightforu2 on 08 January 2012 - 03:01

by Cavalier K9 on 08 January 2012 - 08:01
It upsets me that Reign had to endur so much pain because of one doctors negligence. During the c-section they found 4 dead puppies all with torn placenta's. Thursday when I went into Greenbrier Emergency Vet they took Reign from me right away and ran bloodwork and then a Dr. Sears came out and told me she was fine and to take her home and she should have puppies within 12 hours. I asked him about the dark green discharge and that if Reign should have a C-section. He told me no and that there was not a placental tear. He told me again to take her home and that she was going to be fine! So I got little Reign home around 11pm that night and by 2 am she did have 2 healthy puppies that passed fairly easy for her. After that she stopped having contractions and there was no pushing. By 5am I called my vet and he told me to just watch her and give her a little more time. She was resting comfortabley wasn't stressed. At 7 am she had a few light contractions and was starting to become restless....By 8am I called my vet and he told me to take her in to the ER. He was short staffed on Friday and didn't have enough hands for the surgery. I had Reign to the vet by 10am and met with Dr. O'kelly who was great. We agreed on a plan to try ONE Oxytocin Inj and to give it an hour and that if we didn't make any progress that we would head straight into surgery. In that hour Reign passed 1 dead puppy that had been dead for a while (was difficult to pass). We then did an ultra sound to see the rest of the puppies we got a lot of healthy heartbeats and everything looked great. After that Reign passed another dead puppy who died in the canal. On that note the Dr said that we should go into surgery since mom was getting pretty tired and didn't have much energy to really push. Unfortunatley at that time Dr. O'Kelly was scheduled to get off work and said that Dr. Howland(sp?) was going to help me. We Dr. Howland said that we should give Reign another injection before jumping to surgery. I told him that I would feel more comfortable if we could stick to mine and Dr. O'kellys plan. He told me that it would be better for Reign if we could try to avoid surgery. So He gave Reign another inj and after 90 min passed a very small live female. At this point it is around 4 in the afternoon. I told him that she was getting to tired and was having a hard time pushing and that I was afraid that she was going to lose more puppies. So then he recommended doing another ultra sound to check and see how the puppies were doing. We picked up 4 healthy heart beats so again he recommended another injection.....At this point I was exhausted and very upset. I askd him why we haven't started Sx and he kept saying well she passed a live puppy and that the rest of the puppies should be fine and she should be able to pass them no problem. So I waited about another hour and Reign had given up on pushing so I yelled to the Doctor and told him she hadn't been pushing and that she was way to weak to deliver anymore puppies so again instead of taking her to surgery he fed her puppy food to "boost" her energy. So they gave her canned puppy food and lots of water.......Still nothing.....Finally I did go into Bitch mode and told him that he was killing my puppies and putting my dog through hell and that he could do the surgery NOW or that I'm going to take her elsewhere. At that point he agreed to do the surgery. At 10:30pm he finally took Reign to Sx....At this point I hadn't really ate in 24 hours so I had a friend pick me up we went to eat and grab formula and bottles etc. Then went back to her house to shower and feed the 3 puppies. When I got out of the shower they called and said that Reign was fine and that they found 8 puppies inside and that 4 had passed and 4 were healthy. They told me that they wanted to keep her overnight for observation and that I could bring the other puppies down to feed off of mom. So we headed straight back to the ER. I got another call on my way back stating again Reign is ok but that the Dr. Wanted to do a blood transfusion. Of course I said yes! When I got back to the ER I sat there until 2am before the Dr came in to talk to me. He said that the surgery was a lot more complicated than he thought and that the 4 puppies that had passed had been dead for atleast a day and that they in fact DID have placental tears!!!! At that point I broke down in tears because I knew I should of went to the other pet ER for a scond opinion thursday night......That night I let all the puppies feed and they wanted to keep them the night but I told them that the mothr didn't have enough milk and that I knew they wouldn't feed them every 2 hrs like they would need. I left the ER that night around 4am! Picked Reign up at 8am this morning and had her to her regular vet by 11:30am.
I have learned a lot from this experience. I have worked as a veterinary assistance in emergency rooms and at day practices for 6 years now. Granted we did not see a lot of large breed dogs with dystocia. Mostly we only seen bulldogs.....I feel that I should of known but I'm not going to kill myself over it. I have learned a valuable lesson and I will say that never again will any vet at GBEV touch my dogs!
I want to thank you all for your kind words and will post pictures after I get some more rest!!!! Thank you! Thank You!!!!
Also keep in mind that I have only had 4 hours sleep so far, so hopefully my grammar and spelling isn't to terrible!
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