not right kennel?? - Page 12

MIA,

Maybe I'm missing something? Are you referring to the name of the dog, name of the Sire/Dam or the name of the Kennel selling the dog? Don't need a large debate but we had a few threads on this subject. MWDs, PSDs, and all the other "working" aspects in K9s. I don't think they are intersted in the names. Just the ability to accomplish mission/task at hand.

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I have never bought a dog based on a kennel name. I have looked at certain kennels that are well known, but ultimately it boils down to the individual dog in question, regardless of the current/past fad of super duper dogs from these famous kennels.

I could care less what the dogs "name" is as long as it fits my needs. At the same time I don't buy dogs to sell, and make money off them. I always look for good animals to compete and live with.

I think this gentleman's problem, is that the dog is not from a well known kennel name and will possibly hamper his re-sale value, purely monetary thinking on his part.

In my view, it's a shame we focus on less important things, such as pedigrees and loose the whole concept of actually picking a dog that can really work and perform.

BTW, the most disturbing part of this thread, is the video of the little guy being put in a situation he is clearly not ready for.

what if someone went to koos hassing , bought a puppy and found out later the kennelname on the pup was vom glitsenbats

some people need to get real

as far as the comments on the youtube clip on the pup you can also recognize the clueless
if a pup isnot a preymonster , it still can be a very good dog , maybe even better than many dogs that will bite at this age for prey and prey only
if it was a westdog  showing himself like this on this age you are right , then I would worry

 Look at the posts on here of new pups.  First thing anyone asks, is what is the pedigree.   Why?  because you are banking on the fact that the well known dog in the pedigree is going to throw the desirable genes to your pup of course.  The only time pedigree isn't as important is when it is an older dog and you can actually see it work. 

With the internet though, we put our faith in pedigree when buying a pup.  Obviously you cannot buy it because of how it works. If it comes from a well known kennel known for breeding great dogs, up goes the price some more. and people pay more BECAUSE of the kennel name. 
 How can anyone argue this isn't so? 

MIA, HILARIOUS!

This is priceless, everyone. Read this quote from MIA before she changes it:
and jen without those great ddr lines(names) you would not be selling dogs. those lines(names) have helped you sell and if you think not, than you give yourself way to much credit. 

Gotta love my DDR bitch, huh guys? LMAO

 

Now we know why MIA agrees about names- because she knows NOTHING about lines!!! I give myself no credit when it comes to selling dogs. The dogs speak for themselves and anyone who knows enough that I would consider selling them a dog knows when they meet them (or talk to people who have worked the dam or previous pups) can easily see what they are and I am going to wager that NONE of them would care if I registered them under a different name; my kennel name means squat. I've only bred a small handful of litters. I don't have a single dog w/a big name, and I don't even breed any but one bitch. Don't uneducated newbies sit up and spend hours at night trying to find a "vom Hagenberg" dog. ROFL. And they're experts and know all about the "von der Fasanerie" lines and how they would pair up w/Stadtfeld. This thread really is hilarious. I've heard it all now.


Red Sable, your general premise is true; people who don't know anything look for names they recognize. However, Wade bought a puppy from a place who sells dogs w/different names. His thread on the other forum is JINOPO DOG (only spelled wrong), meaning, that his concern is with selling/buying a dog from JINOPO. Jinopo is not a kennel name, therefore when he goes to "get rid of" this puppy, he can say "Jinopo dog" in his ad title, since he thinks that's so important (and it would be, if he were unable to describe the dog's temperament in detail). Jiri sent him the dog, the dog is from Jiri, it's from Jinopo, and that's why the majority of us just don't "get" the problem here. Only in people like Wade's minds is "z Jirkova Dvora" vastly superior to "z Blatenskeho zamku" or "od Roubenky." Ya see what I mean? It's not a universal truth, imo.

Jenni78
I have no qualms about a Pup coming from another Kennel if the Male is the one i want a Pup from and is recommended by the Breeder i first approached,
However what i think is right and correct is that i be told that the Pup is bred by another Kennel but recommended by the Guy i first asked that Jenni78 is courtesy to the Buyer before i pay money for the Pup then i can make my own mind up if i want to go ahead with the purchase, is that to much to expect from a breeder because if it is then i steer shy of such people.
Regarding Wade's Puppy for me the Pup has a deformed ear and that is not right for the breeder to expect the buyer to pay the travelling costs of the Pup to send it back and pay again for another Pup the Buyer is in no way in the wrong on that and should not be expected to pay for what is not his fault.
Let me tell you that if i sell a few Young Racing Pigeons to a fancier in the UK i live in Belgium  usually if i have any for sale they go in sets of 6. The freight charge to get them to the UK is 120 dollars, then i have to pay a courier service to deliver them to the Guys house once in the UK thats costs me another 90 dollars so all told 210 USA dollars a set of 6. Now if anything happens to these babies or they go back in condition i have to pay the freight to get them home to me or replace them at my full cost, And there have been times when it has happened I do not argue at all the Customer must be satisfied, My reputation hangs on doing the right thing by the customer and i have stood by this throughout my life in every deal i make,
So if i buy a Puppy i expect the courtesy of being treated right, Now if this Wade is not satisfied with the Pup and it seems he was NOT TOLD it was bred by another Kennel as he should have been before he paid then the choice was his, But the Pups ear is not correct in that Video, a Photo would be better if he could put one on here, if it still is not right then the Pup should be returned free of any charges and his money reimbursed that would be the best way out for him.
If it happens the ear turns out okay without any messing about with then he on this occasion should bite the Bullet and give the Pup a chance and he should know by now signs of what the Pup is going to turn out like, but to much of what he was doing in that video will mess the Pup up big time and it is advisable to stop doing it.
Steve1 

Let's get one thing straight right now.  Vickie is not posting on this thread, nor any other thread on PDB.  The new poster is not Vickie or any other member. 


Yellow Rose you don't have access to IP numbers here, so I am confused by your statement that a member here has a known IP number that matches someone  on Pragers site.

I agree with you Steve.  It seems unfair for a kennel to send a faulty dog, and expect the buyer to pay shipping charges to send it back.   OUCH.  Good to know in advance

He bought the pup at 8 weeks old. It is now 7 months old.
A lot could have happened in that time to the ear to cause it to be that way.
Why is it now important? What about the 5 months in between?
(It is only important now because he wants to sell the pup)
They have taken his word about the pup's ear and offered another pup at no charge. 
He gets to keep the pup he has.
He only has to pay the shipping fees to get a new pup.
It is all in the contract.
What is difficult about understanding this?