POTUS 2012 - Page 12

Well AP confirms that Perry is on his way to the debates. Looks like we're finally getting the battle we wanted, of course if he doesn't back out 5 minutes before hand in the lobby. (lol)

Although AP is drumming it up as a Romney v. Perry debate the main point as usual. 

BE,
defeatist,
I don't think so.

Where do you think, oops where does your man Ron think 14 million jobs will come from?

Neither side has a plan or real answers, because they know it's not possible without cutting the throats of their billionaire benefactors.

It's time to ask the serious questions and think before excepting the answers we will be fed.

There is more at stake here than just an election, people are so easily distracted.

Moons.



  

*"It's time to ask the serious questions and think before excepting the answers we will be fed."*

Moons tell me something, would you rather pay 10 cents in silver coin a gallon of gas ..OR.. whatever the Federal Reserve dictates (what is it now ?) a gallon of gas in fiat money ?

Seriously, it's a no brainer. Look at all the inflation. Are you married ? I feel sorry for your wife if you are. Bet she would love a purse full of silver 10 cent coins on ladies night.  LMAO

YAY America !!!  Ron Paul 2012 !!!!

Just think Moons you could buy a six pack of Lagers for less than 35 cents right now on the silver standard or almost 3 gallons of gas. 

Edit: not only that, but think of how the prices will drop once we tackle our inflation problem. Remember our elders proudly saying they could go to a dinner and a movie on a dime ? They wasn't lying ya know.

Be,
No need to get personal with me, feel sorry for someone else.

Me and mine will survive, trust me.

Gold and Silver, silver and gold, listen to yourself.

 Now answer the question,
where will the jobs come from?
 

I agree the system is Fluktup, that is the no brainer.

So how would you, yourself fix it?
Or would you just rely on some fool politician bought and sold, which is where we are now.
Got any ideas on the subject?

The Constitution does not cover the problems we're in by the way.
No where does it address these issues of greed and corruption, or class struggle.
Nor does it have any power over the rest of the world, we're not in this alone Be.

So much for political slogans.


 Only at the precipice do we evolve, only on the brink will we change, that's from a movie but it rings true.
Only when change is the last option will people actually do what must be done.
But by then it will be too late.

The question still goes unanswered,
Where will we find 14 million jobs?

I have many more questions besides that one by the way.

None of which are personal.

Moons.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BewOcp1JtDU&feature=youtu.be 

At a a town hall in New Orleans, a child asks President Obama "Why do people hate you?"

Transcript:
Okay, here's -- this young man, right here. I'm going to let him use my special mic. Hey, this is a big guy -- don't go "awww." Come on, man, I mean, this is a -- all right, what's your name?

Q Terrence Scott (phonetic).

THE PRESIDENT: Terrence Scott. What do you have to say?

Q I have to say, why do people hate you and why -- they supposed to love you, and God is love and --

THE PRESIDENT: That's what I'm talking about. (Laughter and applause.) Come on. That's what I'm talking about. Terrence, I appreciate that. What grade are you in?

Q Fourth.

THE PRESIDENT: You're in fourth grade? Well, now, first of all, I did get elected President, so not everybody hates me, now. I don't want you to -- (laughter.) I got a whole lot of votes. I want to make sure everybody understands. But you know, what is true is if you were watching TV lately, it seems like everybody is just getting mad all the time. And, you know, I think that you've got to take it with a grain of salt. Some of it is just what's called politics, where once one party wins then the other party kind of gets -- feels like it needs to poke you a little bit to keep you on your toes. And so you shouldn't take it too seriously.

And then sometimes -- as I said before, people just -- I think they're worried about their own lives. A lot of people are losing their jobs right now. A lot of people are losing their health care or they've lost their homes to foreclosure. And they're feeling frustrated. And when you're President of the United States, you know, you've got to deal with all of that. That's exactly right. And, you know, you get some of the credit when things go good; and when things are going tough, then you're going to get some of the blame and that's part of the job.

But, you know, I'm a pretty tough guy. Are you a tough guy? You look like you're pretty tough. And so you've just got to keep on going even when folks are criticizing you. Because as ...

I have a great deal of respect for you Moons, esp for your comments because you are a realist and have substantial insight into how the real world functions. Plus your insights are brilliant that's for sure. Your point of where will the 14 millions jobs come is well made.  However, I disagree with your point that there are no remedies in the Constitution for corporate greed, etc.  Most citizens don't realize that the Constitution was breeched in 1913 when the Fed Res. Act was passed by a Congress with no quorum present on a Friday night before Christmass break through bribery and political influence peddling, allowing phoney fiat debt notes to be issued masquerading as "real money".  The only reason they were ever accepted was because the were required by this legislation to become "legal tender" for debts and started out as Gold and Silver Certificates which was remobved over time.  At first these "debt-notes" were redeemable for gold and silver at any bank, but this was systematically removed.  Now these debt-notes are issued out of thin air by the fed reserve which is a private bank incorporated in Delaware in 1914.  These dollars are technically loans to which the American people must pay interest on, thus the national debt. 

Therefore, the national debt is phoney and should be immediately defaulted, since it is based on phoney money.  Let the fed eats its own debt and l;et the big wall street banks eat their own debt that they ceated with credit default swaps and derivatives which are pure financial fraud and a 70 trillion dollar house of cards for these off-shore based criminal operations. 

Our Founding Fathers wrote a great deal about the war between "we the people" and foreign based central banks which kept attempting to usurp and take back our country for England and their financial system based in the "citry of London" (a separate country with its own ambassadors, police force and no taxes, just like the Vatican). Look at how the value of the debt based dollar (a unit of measure no longer exchangeable for silver or gold as it was at first).  Look how it has dropped continually and is worth only a few cents of what it used to be.  This is a degredation of the value continuously and now under the two illegal wall street bankster bauilouts and QE1 and QE2, the US dollar is floodiong the world and dropping in value rapidly, thus the great increases in gasoline and food and everything else. 

If we had a sound money system, repealed nafta, cafta, gatt and wto and clamped down on large int'l corporations that bribe our Congress, the USA would be terrifically prosperous just like before.  They key is controlling int'l offshore corporations and getting rid of phoney fiat interest bearing currency from a private central bank, just like Andrew Jackson did.  All corruption springs forth from our corrupt, private banking system and it's debt-based "money". My guess is that the whole system will have to crash and then folks will finally wake up and take back what is left of their country.

Preston,
I am fully aware of all of that, I understand it very well.
And yes, it is my guess that the whole system would have to fail before anything could ever change, how can one stop the wind, or keep the tide from rising.
No less the task.

Money is the power that rules men in the absence of lethal force.

 Was a neat trick on the part of our forefathers.
They knew then what they were doing, and we think they did it all for (we the people).

The world is a bit more complicated now with many shades of grey hidden in plain sight, it's what you can't see that really concerns me.
I'm sure you have some idea of what I am speaking of.

What would a man do to feed his family and keep them safe?
When life itself is held above ones head, things get scary at this point.

It's easy to see what happens when people actually fight for there lives as they are doing right now in some parts of the world.
If not for the support of Nato where would they be?
What if the super powers turn on their own?
Who would or could come to their aid?

I believe corruption runs that deep and it would not take much to provoke such a response.

I'm sure there are measures in place to maintain law and order, don't you?


Anyway,
I do not believe I will ever bother voting again, I don't believe it makes any difference who's face they put on their puppets.
Might as well be a beauty contest, with or without the talent requirement.

Our leaders did great harm to the country this year, they all deserve to see what it's like to be unemployed.

 Moons.


 

I'm pissed Rick Perry should be charged with assualt !! He grabbed Ron, menacing him around and forcing him off his podium during a commercial break !! Huntsman tried to stand between them but Perry rushed him away afterwhile. It was that bad Ron's body guard had to step in. This was outright assualt !!! You should see the malevolence in Perry's eyes, Perry is evil !! I'll post pictures and video as soon as I have permissions.

Ron Paul won the debate by a landslide. The five major mass media don't want to talk about it because they have been ordered by their editors to dis him.
http://www.infowars.com/poll-shows-ron-paul-won-debate-at-reagan-shrine/