Breed Standard Changes in UK (GSD and non-GSD) - Page 12

Thank you Jim.  Could I have some comment on this.  Do you think I've bee fair in estimating where the withers and start of croup are placed?  Does anyone else see a convex curve in the back?



 

Hi Wildmoor, thanks for your response.  The first conditions you mention..... are you suggesting these have a connection with roach back?  The breeds you say have compressed spinal condition...if these are directly attributable to roach backs in general, ie not specific to the breeds, or specific to the particular type of roach that these breeds have, why do not all dogs with a roach back suffer this compression?

The two breeds I mentioned, Bedlington and Borzoi, suppose they didn't have so severe a crouch that their hindquarters were nearly touching the floor, say they were like the average WG show winner. Would you then consider them to be roached?

Could you now give your opinion on the backline of Jim's dog.

Oh sorry my dog, the one in the avatar.  I don't have an photos of her standing and she's long gone now.  She's a daughter of Uran and from the 80s when toplines were much less sloping and curved.  She may have had a very slight roach but much less than is normal in today's show dogs.

  pod now will you show us your dogs  now re  your line if we were to stretch tiggi so her top line was at the angle of your line there would be no curve but then she would look like the american type
jim h

AHA!  So you do see a curve   :)

Now try for the BACK... where the withers end... that's what we were talking about was it not?
 
 

going on where you drew your line but like missbeeb says draw your line from the end of the wither    so you no longer have a gsd then pod     mmmmm
jim h

Sorry not with you.  What do you mean?

you have drawn your line from where the withers start try it from where the end you will see an entirely different picture
jim h

Could you draw it, to show what you mean?