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by Gigante on 22 May 2016 - 00:05

by Mithuna on 22 May 2016 - 01:05
Gigante what do you know about Rocco?
He was bred by a friend of mine down in Fl. He owns a small kennel ( Vom Dunbar ).
Nores has a son who is about 27 inches tall and about 105 lbs ..and aggression in loads. He is owned by a sport trainer in Orlando who was selling him when he was 7 months old; she said when she saw so much aggression by `1 yr old, she changed her mind and htye are now definitely keeping him.
@joan
Thats the guy who is maintaining the Furo Kamos and Navar lines.

by Prager on 22 May 2016 - 01:05
Hans answers:
LOL neither do I !!!!! It should be not "falsified" but "classified". I have obviously hit wrong word at spell check.

by Gigante on 22 May 2016 - 03:05
@Mithuna, Joan asked you about the linebreeding of who you where talking about and breeding so I posted him. Furo and Navar are not lines originators as Joan mentioned so not line preservation. Mixed dog cz ddr some west on brief look, I like the pedigree. Not my genre though, I dont know anything about the dog.
by joanro on 22 May 2016 - 03:05
Thank you for posting the ped. Nice looking dog.

by Gigante on 22 May 2016 - 03:05
by joanro on 22 May 2016 - 04:05
by duke1965 on 22 May 2016 - 05:05
and who cares if Furo is a "line " or not originators, forget that ........., if you want to preserve Furo, you can do so by (line) breeding offspring of him that is Furo tipical and has Furo tipical traits
genetics work the same for every dog, no matter what label some people put on the dogs itself, be iit originator, legendairy or champion etc
Im having quite a bit of Furo kamos sister in my dogs, fany kamos and I like the offspring,

by Mithuna on 22 May 2016 - 12:05
I asked about " Native " verusus " Edited " aggression that was raised initially by Prager. I observe in my own dog that she would chase a ball as many times as I throw it , even to the extent that it is not in her physical interest to continue. I stop because Im thinking the next chase may just burst her heart. So it seems like drive can override physical concern ( Mike Suttle pointed out a similar version of this ). Then it is logically possible to have a dog so high in defensive aggression, that the dog would continue to display and act on it even when it is not in his/her physical interest (in the face of a serious threat ) to do so. This latter type of innate aggression is what i understand to be native aggression. Alloyed aggression seems to be derived from it.

by Mithuna on 22 May 2016 - 12:05
::There is another guy in NJ who bred 4 repeat litters on a Furo Kamos g. grandson and ALL of his pups ( about 30 pups ) went to LE. He is breeding one last repeat litter this summer to keep a pup for himself. Here is the ped of the pups' sire:
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2068385-sascha-z-dvorakova-sadu
The mother of the pups is not in PDB but she is a maternal grandaughter of Bady Ze Svobodneho Dvora and paternal grandaughter of Quint Hronovsky Pramen ( Patrol Dog and a Mambo son ).
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