Keeping Your Dog Safe from Law Enforcement - Page 11

Im not sure training is going to help that type of....  evil?, right. Since this thread turned shoot the messengers, Im specifically talking about the officers who maced the puppies in the cage and trained thier weapons on them before being stopped, with regards to my evil observation. 

Heres another one of eight that Im reading about today, that perhaps had this officer attended one of Jims classes an animal may not have been shot. I dont know.

On April 15, the McCullough family lost their home in a fire, leaving them homeless. They have been staying elsewhere but would return to their home to feed their dog "Angel" and the 11 puppies she gave birth to last week. Wednesday morning, the family was in their home when Hammond Police arrived.

Louis McCullough said police were screaming so Angel started to bark. "She ran toward (the officer)," McCullough said. McCullough said he told the dog to stop. "She stopped to turn and look at me and he shot her in the back."

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local/indiana&id=8647307

* "These cowboy LEOs are in the minority and suggesting that all LEO's are alike is the same level of thought as racial profiling." *

--   Unbelievable. I guess because you say it - it isn't racial profiling. 

I think the interesting part about all these incidents is the comments coming in from people outside the US. If you go to the websites where each incident is originally reported and read the comment section - it seems foreign people understand the stair step tactic in regards to the use of force continuum.

Unfortunately in the US, most will only know of it when it's presented at their door.

Harris County Precinct 4 deputy constables said several people broke into a home on Sterling Stone at Stone Bluff Tuesday night.
Deputies caught one person, but several others ran into some nearby woods.
Dogs were brought in to search for the suspects. During the search, one of the dogs, a 4-year-old Czech-German Shepherd mix named Bleck, was found dead.
Officials said they believe Bleck caught a juvenile suspect as he tried to hop a fence.
"Unfortunately, the other suspect came up behind the dog while he was trying to detain the juvenile and grabbed the dog from behind and literally choked him to death," said Capt. W.H. Wieghat with the Precinct 4 Constable's Office.
A necropsy is being conducted to determine the exact cause of death.
Officials said the dog's handler and members of the department are taking the death very hard.
"It's been a rough time for all of us, I tell you," said Wieghat. "(His handler) worked with the dog 40 hours a week, went home with him. It's just like losing your child."
The home invasion suspects were eventually captured.
Officials said they have not received a confession from the suspect accused of killing Bleck, but two others have identified him as the culprit.
Investigators said they believe the suspects, including two 19-year-olds, a 21-year-old, a 17-year-old and a juvenile, are linked to other burglaries in the area.
The suspect could be charged with interfering with a canine, which is a third-degree felony, but the constable's office wants the charge upgraded.
Additional burglary charges are expected to be filed."

http://www.katu.com/news/local/119120759.html

http://www.kmtr.com/news/local/story/Police-dog-killed-in-the-line-of-duty/nbHIQ3PiaUWxnIURM9tnhQ.cspx 


 

So what are you trying to say on the Keeping Your Dog Safe from Law Enforcement thread, because criminals strangle a Police dog it's ok for the Police to kill innocent dogs on their own property everywhere the Police go ?

Convienient to derail to circulus in probando.   

Slamdunc and alboe2009 have taken a typical position of LEO's in defense of other LEO's in this matter. There is nothing wrong specificaly with that position, but what I have found is that good LEO's will defend bad LEO's publicly and tell the truth privately and tell you ... . I'll bet they both agree with many things that have been said here, but can't cross the thin blue line in a public forum. LEO's have been fired over much less and defending the opinions of civilians over other LEO's is bad for the career. So I hold no ill will towards Slamdunc or alboe2009 because the reality is that they have to tow the line. It also doesn't make their job any easier if civilians really understood that some officers will have NO RESPECT for their property or rights and that they should be proactive in defending both. No LEO can ever come out and warn civilians about those possibilities.

So what can be done?

Simply, if enough concerned people react over the issue of LEO's unlawfully shooting pets, get together and put forth grassroots efforts to pass laws making the action illegal in some manner, LEO's will have to stop. Look at the Brady Bill, Ruans Law and Megans Law. I'm not saying I support these examples, nor are they exactly related to our discussion, but they do show that citizens can tell law enforcement how to act and behave through legislation. According to Slamdunc and alboe2009 LEO's don't want civilians telling them what to do, nor have an opinion on how LEO"s should do things. So what happens, if a grassroots effort got laws passed that would force LEO's to take more care in handling animals?

I will tell you:

THEY WILL HAVE TO OBEY THAT LAW and it doesn't matter how inconvient it will be for them individually or their respective departments. They will have to train to deal with it, PERIOD and none of the noted problems stated by Slamdunc and alboe2009 will amount to a hill of beans in court, if the law were to give them more strict guidlines for dealing with animals on private property.

Also on a side note, the data for LEO's shooting animals on private property exists for every PD in the USA. It may not be organized and ready for analysis, but its there, either as a hand written report in a file cabinet or as a digital notation in a database. I'm not sure what legal mechanism could trigger the release of the raw data, nor how much such a study would cost, but LACK OF DATA is NOT the issue. Its more like a lack of overall analysis across the USA, the unifying of data from different unrelated filing/storage systems and no funding to support such an enormous study.

So who's starting the FaceBook community page ? lol

 

What happened to this topic?  No other comments?

but because of those who look on and do nothing. 

.. because its like arguing with people declaring that 2+2=5. They outnumber us so they must be right.