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by Two Moons on 30 July 2013 - 01:07
I didn't say that at all anywhere.
What I said was I do not believe in a creator, and I have little trust of theories.
What is an outside world from you?
That's kinda vague.
Do you believe there is a heaven, or a hell?
Do you believe the universe has a beginning or and end?
What I said was I do not believe in a creator, and I have little trust of theories.
What is an outside world from you?
That's kinda vague.
Do you believe there is a heaven, or a hell?
Do you believe the universe has a beginning or and end?
by vk4gsd on 30 July 2013 - 02:07
not vague at all, it is all matter and events that exist whether you believe it or not, whether you are there or not.
um, i don't believe in the Christian version of heaven and hell as taught to me in school where heaven is just up there a ways in the clouds and hell is somewhere in the center of the earth ie physical places where in heaven lambs and tigers etc lay next to each other (what do they eat, where do they poop) and everyone is young and beautiful all the time and only a certain number of specific christians are allowed live there and similar such descriptions i find childish.
to premature to say if the universe has an end but since COBE a definitive answer may seem at least possible, seems intuitively clear to me it had a beginning, which may be not unique, cannot verify this, just a plausible belief backed by logic, measurement, reason and the unexpected apparent convergence of several strong theories.
um, i don't believe in the Christian version of heaven and hell as taught to me in school where heaven is just up there a ways in the clouds and hell is somewhere in the center of the earth ie physical places where in heaven lambs and tigers etc lay next to each other (what do they eat, where do they poop) and everyone is young and beautiful all the time and only a certain number of specific christians are allowed live there and similar such descriptions i find childish.
to premature to say if the universe has an end but since COBE a definitive answer may seem at least possible, seems intuitively clear to me it had a beginning, which may be not unique, cannot verify this, just a plausible belief backed by logic, measurement, reason and the unexpected apparent convergence of several strong theories.
by beetree on 30 July 2013 - 02:07
So, Moons, the short answer is you don't have a clue what real science practiced by real scientists is in the real world. I could tell.
by vk4gsd on 30 July 2013 - 02:07
moons does not believe in anything, he is lost.
by vk4gsd on 30 July 2013 - 02:07
Shtal, watched that clip, very simple so would appeal to a lot of people that don't like to think. you might not want to start a comp to put up stupid clips, you may come out feeling educated.

by Shtal on 30 July 2013 - 03:07
Is that what happened to you :) lol

by Carlin on 30 July 2013 - 03:07
vk4gsd- 4+ paragraphs to accomplish telling me that if funding were available, you're just certain science would find a way. That for some odd reason you feel the need to "inform" me as to the way in which organized religion has attempted to manipulate the sciences to forward its agenda. That you believe you have cause to exhort someone you don't even know, that they must "begin" to care for humanity. You have offered very little, and what you do offer seems as misplaced as I can tell you it is misinformed.

by Shtal on 30 July 2013 - 04:07
Carlin,
It’s such a dumb idea, I feel sorry for people who believe it, I mean I really do; it’s so easy to make fun of them, lol it’s actually fun to make fun of them and I enjoy it, I just had to confess I enjoy making fun of evolutionist but it is sad that they are so blinded, you know, I am sure Elijah you know was enjoying himself making fun of prophets of baal, why won’t you cry little louder maybe he is sleeping lol you know, cuz he knew how dumb it was to worship a statue. This guy’s carve their own statue, coded with Gold, set it up in the temple, oooh (bowing) thank you for creating us lol, idiot you created him, lol he didn’t created you, and Satan has to be laughing at this guys for believing this, but I feel sorry for them, I mean I really do, I wanted to win them to the Lord.
It’s such a dumb idea, I feel sorry for people who believe it, I mean I really do; it’s so easy to make fun of them, lol it’s actually fun to make fun of them and I enjoy it, I just had to confess I enjoy making fun of evolutionist but it is sad that they are so blinded, you know, I am sure Elijah you know was enjoying himself making fun of prophets of baal, why won’t you cry little louder maybe he is sleeping lol you know, cuz he knew how dumb it was to worship a statue. This guy’s carve their own statue, coded with Gold, set it up in the temple, oooh (bowing) thank you for creating us lol, idiot you created him, lol he didn’t created you, and Satan has to be laughing at this guys for believing this, but I feel sorry for them, I mean I really do, I wanted to win them to the Lord.

by Carlin on 30 July 2013 - 11:07
shtal - I have no interest in "making fun" of vk4gsd, or the fact that he doesn't believe in God. If an atheist were to tell me that I'm out of my head for believing in something I cannot prove empirically, I'm really fine with that, because I get it, and I don't blame them. It's another story entirely for someone to attempt to forward a counter-position upon a platform (in this case science and philosophy) on which he has no command. The substance of what he offers in that sense is fragmented, anecdotal, and incomplete, but is presented authoritatively.

by Two Moons on 30 July 2013 - 14:07
Carlin,
VK4 has his own problems.
Seems he's been caught in a couple of lies.
Bee,
you need to work on your stinger, I can't feel it anymore.
Still waiting on the definitive Sandy Hook report.
Shital,
your video's have actually gotten worst, didn't think it was possible but you did it.
vk4,
I am not lost at all, and I have different beliefs, a couple you have touched on purely by accident I'm sure.
You gonna enlighten me?
I doubt that very seriously.
VK4 has his own problems.
Seems he's been caught in a couple of lies.
Bee,
you need to work on your stinger, I can't feel it anymore.
Still waiting on the definitive Sandy Hook report.
Shital,
your video's have actually gotten worst, didn't think it was possible but you did it.
vk4,
I am not lost at all, and I have different beliefs, a couple you have touched on purely by accident I'm sure.
You gonna enlighten me?
I doubt that very seriously.
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