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by Red Sable on 27 February 2013 - 03:02
Travels, what other religion besides Christianity demands you believe their God is the one true God or you will die in your sins?
What are the repercussions of other religions? I honestly know of no other religion that requires certain things or you will suffer the consequences.
What are the repercussions of other religions? I honestly know of no other religion that requires certain things or you will suffer the consequences.
by Shtal on 27 February 2013 - 03:02
Hundmutter wrote: You know darn well I do not believe that humans / all life originated
from '"non-living material'". I believe in the explained process of
living organisms being brought into being and amalgamated
with chemistry and heat and oxygen etc. 'We' can near as
dammit 'create' life in this way for ourselves in laboratories
these days. Hardly difficult to envisage evolutionary development
from that point; and a good deal more logical and believable than
any 'god story'.
Perhaps, I would have to help you to see your stupidity how you came from non-living material,
I will help you to understand that video clip that I provided in my other post exactly about evolution:
You believe in evolution then I will ask you where did you came from?
And you will reply, we came from macro-molecule, and then I will ask you? Where did that come from? And you will say from the oceans - from pre-biotic soup and I will ask you again where did that come from? And you will reply - it rain on the rocks for millions of years and so you will pause for a moment, by realizing you came from a rock….And you call that science Hundmutter?
Also, here is my original post from the past whey I asked GSDtravels a question?
GSDtravels, can you please define what you mean by science, and tell me your observation of the science and the interpretation of the science.
And that is why I like asking questions about Big Bang theory, and so the text book says 20 billions years ago all the matter in the universe was squish into tiny dot, and it was spinning faster and faster and boom it had exploded…And then unanswered question always comes up, where all this matter come from, you going to say I don’t know that for sure. So if I told you I believe about six-thousand years ago, God created the heavens and earth, like the Bible teaches, you are going to reply to me and say where did your God come from and I honestly don’t know, but the text book says 20 billions years ago there was a Big Bang and you don’t know where the dirt came from, so I believe in the Beginning God and you believe in the Beginning Dirt… Don’t tell me my theory is religious and yours is science; you see GSDtravels they are both religious and not science.
Also, If I correctly understanding! - You are trying to imply that Religion vs. Science or in other words Religious and scientific people debate evolution, what is your unspoken secret here GSDtravels; are you trying to imply that Evolution is part of science?
Both creation and evolution is inherent religious.
HERE IS SECOND VIDEO....
from '"non-living material'". I believe in the explained process of
living organisms being brought into being and amalgamated
with chemistry and heat and oxygen etc. 'We' can near as
dammit 'create' life in this way for ourselves in laboratories
these days. Hardly difficult to envisage evolutionary development
from that point; and a good deal more logical and believable than
any 'god story'.
Perhaps, I would have to help you to see your stupidity how you came from non-living material,
I will help you to understand that video clip that I provided in my other post exactly about evolution:
You believe in evolution then I will ask you where did you came from?
And you will reply, we came from macro-molecule, and then I will ask you? Where did that come from? And you will say from the oceans - from pre-biotic soup and I will ask you again where did that come from? And you will reply - it rain on the rocks for millions of years and so you will pause for a moment, by realizing you came from a rock….And you call that science Hundmutter?
Also, here is my original post from the past whey I asked GSDtravels a question?
GSDtravels, can you please define what you mean by science, and tell me your observation of the science and the interpretation of the science.
And that is why I like asking questions about Big Bang theory, and so the text book says 20 billions years ago all the matter in the universe was squish into tiny dot, and it was spinning faster and faster and boom it had exploded…And then unanswered question always comes up, where all this matter come from, you going to say I don’t know that for sure. So if I told you I believe about six-thousand years ago, God created the heavens and earth, like the Bible teaches, you are going to reply to me and say where did your God come from and I honestly don’t know, but the text book says 20 billions years ago there was a Big Bang and you don’t know where the dirt came from, so I believe in the Beginning God and you believe in the Beginning Dirt… Don’t tell me my theory is religious and yours is science; you see GSDtravels they are both religious and not science.
Also, If I correctly understanding! - You are trying to imply that Religion vs. Science or in other words Religious and scientific people debate evolution, what is your unspoken secret here GSDtravels; are you trying to imply that Evolution is part of science?
Both creation and evolution is inherent religious.
HERE IS SECOND VIDEO....
by Shtal on 27 February 2013 - 05:02
by Shtal on 27 February 2013 - 05:02
by Hundmutter on 27 February 2013 - 06:02
Shtal - and who created your God ?
Just as stupid.
Just as stupid.
by Shtal on 27 February 2013 - 06:02
Hundmutter,
God is eternal, and if you please watch this video you will understand why?
God is eternal, and if you please watch this video you will understand why?
by Shtal on 27 February 2013 - 07:02
Hundmutter,
I wish you well :-)
yours sincerely,
Shtal.
I wish you well :-)
yours sincerely,
Shtal.
by Shtal on 27 February 2013 - 08:02
by GSDtravels on 27 February 2013 - 12:02
Travels, what other religion besides Christianity demands you believe their God is the one true God or you will die in your sins?
What are the repercussions of other religions? I honestly know of no other religion that requires certain things or you will suffer the consequences.
Well, I guess that would depend on which brand of Christianity you're talking about! Just look at the original video I posted and then read the responses from Gouda and Shtal. You don't even have to leave Christianity to see the dichotomy, now do you? What if your interpretation is wrong? What if you followed the wrong preacher, listened to the wrong sermon and believed one particular version?
Do I really need to go to a different religion just to show you? If so it's not really difficult, what if Allah is the true savior? Or how about Judaism? I can go back and look at the thousands of other religiions that exist or have existed, but I really have no need, considering.
What are the repercussions of other religions? I honestly know of no other religion that requires certain things or you will suffer the consequences.
Well, I guess that would depend on which brand of Christianity you're talking about! Just look at the original video I posted and then read the responses from Gouda and Shtal. You don't even have to leave Christianity to see the dichotomy, now do you? What if your interpretation is wrong? What if you followed the wrong preacher, listened to the wrong sermon and believed one particular version?
Do I really need to go to a different religion just to show you? If so it's not really difficult, what if Allah is the true savior? Or how about Judaism? I can go back and look at the thousands of other religiions that exist or have existed, but I really have no need, considering.
by Hundmutter on 27 February 2013 - 13:02
Guess I'll just have to stay 'stubborn and unreasonable' then.
Because of what facts we DO know to be true [about "life, the universe,
and everything"] e.g. laws of Physics and Biology, it follows (as Richard
Dawkins and others maintain) that: 'a God capable of designing a universe,
or anything else, would have to be complex and statistically improbable.'
So "God, or any intelligent, decision-taking, calculating agent, would have to
be highly improbable in the very same statistical sense as the entities 'he'
is supposed to explain." (Dawkins, 'The God Delusion'.)
Any time the theists run into an aspect of life so complex that it would clearly
need someone or thing VERY complicated to make it happen, [eg like God
being capable of watching everybody, all the time, doing everything] they retreat
into "Well don't bother about explaining that in detail, it is simply that God is
all-knowing and all-powerful." And if I am asked to accept statements like that,
I might just as well agree that there are fairies at the end of my garden.
Because of what facts we DO know to be true [about "life, the universe,
and everything"] e.g. laws of Physics and Biology, it follows (as Richard
Dawkins and others maintain) that: 'a God capable of designing a universe,
or anything else, would have to be complex and statistically improbable.'
So "God, or any intelligent, decision-taking, calculating agent, would have to
be highly improbable in the very same statistical sense as the entities 'he'
is supposed to explain." (Dawkins, 'The God Delusion'.)
Any time the theists run into an aspect of life so complex that it would clearly
need someone or thing VERY complicated to make it happen, [eg like God
being capable of watching everybody, all the time, doing everything] they retreat
into "Well don't bother about explaining that in detail, it is simply that God is
all-knowing and all-powerful." And if I am asked to accept statements like that,
I might just as well agree that there are fairies at the end of my garden.
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