Keeping Your Dog Safe from Law Enforcement - Page 10

So the saying goes "beating a dead horse."    

alboe2009

For the most part, are most saying that LEOs are shooting their/someone's pets in the "criminal" aspect? Shooting their/someone's pet what, on purpose? Shooting their/someone's pets because they are afraid of a dog/any breed/any size? Shooting their/someone's pet because they can?

 

I think the tendency in many officer's in general, wide scope, is to shoot without real justification any loose dogs, chained dogs, leashed dogs,  dogs running towards an officer, many on their own property and claim threat and move on. During all aspects of duty. Thats what I believe the cops data show as well. That link was the DOJ data. With this being what I believe to be true, it does not reflect upon officers who don't shoot animals without true justification or in a split second judgments, that where in error. 

 

 

So for some to sit their and think let alone say we are close minded or act, think just that way, and it happens to be the wrong way just isn't possible.

 

From this end when an officer or group of officers is pointed to as being close minded or in error on something, it seems like automatically that even if, as an officer you disagrees with what that group or officer is doing, an officer is under attack even while wrong, and a rally is created. Right and wrong is set aside.
 

 

 

Gigante, where did the comment, (excuse me, I'm not too computer savvy so I can't do a lot of the I guess pasting/boxing your comments so I have to type most if not all of it) but when you say "It's a bit...........killing things, unless it needs to be killed". Did I miss something because I tried to reread all the posts and I didn't see where that took place? And the next box? Did someone else say that or are you saying that? And that last question? Sorry, but over my head, I don't understand?

 

Its the basic premise of something that I posted and one officer found it to be a ridiculous and unintelligent comment. It seems pretty easy to me to "be on this page" if you will. If we are unable to agree with something so easy as this in a public forum, then whats the point? 

 

Kill peoples pet's when there is no other choice, kill peoples pets when a human life is at risk, kill peoples pets because you made a split second choice and it was wrong choice, but split second.

 

alboe2009

 

Sorry, I didn't read past your post before I posted, I didn't realise out of service was being called/ordered by Jim. Thanks anyways for at least attempting to try and understand why this subject is real important.

 

I have not used a PC in a while but I think if you highlight text in the thread and then right click and click copy then move your cursor to where you want to paste and right click again then click paste you we be all good.

May 4, 2012 (video at link)

http://www.keepcolumbiafree.com/blog...-in-fulton-mo/

A few days ago, SWAT officers of the Fulton (Missouri) Police Department shot and killed a dog while serving a “narcotics” search warrant. The residents of the house asked if they could cage the dog. The officers denied the request, ordering that the dog to be chained to a tree. The dog got loose and was then shot eight times, the first six shots wounding the dog and the last two point-blank, shotgun blasts killing it.

After finishing off the first dog, the officers first maced and then turned their guns on caged puppies only stopping when confronted by concerned neighbors.

After kicking in doors, killing a family pet, pepper-spraying and attempting to kill two caged puppies, and generally terrorizing a neighborhood, the only charge filed against the Fulton man was misdemeanor marijuana possession. He was released the same day.

Since dogs are property like a VCR remote control in almost all states, its cool to shoot them in the head, just dont dispose of them improperly that could lead to a fine ...... Holy smokes batman.  Thanks for posting a photo of the shot dog as well.  

The photo is hidden you wont see it to read the story. Geez

http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20120504-NEWS-205040387



The level of evil & stupidity is also on the rise.

Theres almost no chance dogs survive a swat breech. Most remote controls, sorry dogs dont make it out alive.   . Eight shots, wow. 


One person commented that:

This is terrible. This is animal abuse. I heard that the puppies were euthanized. Wouldn’t that be seizure of property.

Will any lawyers reading this please chime in on this question.  

If the puppies in the cage had to be put down because of what the officers did to them, it seems to me they just lost immunity, and can be sued for seizure of property as the poster outlined above. Hypothetically, I don't know for sure if the puppies had to be put down, but they were no longer in the cage in the story.

Nothing to see here. Move along folks, its not like there's a strong correlation between animal abuse and abuse of humans. Although I'm most certain DHS is taking precautions for possible BLOWBACK of these atrocities - no doubt. It is what it is.

BabyEagle has posted a very compelling damnation of one LEO's unacceptable handling of a situation involving dogs. I don't imagine Slamdunc or any other officers reading that will be very proud of the way their peers handled the situtation.  These cowboy LEOs are in the minority and suggesting that all LEO's are alike is the same level of thought as racial profiling.  I would also suggest that there are 2 sides to every story and sometimes there may be a good reason to shoot a dog. My dog and I have been jumped by loose dogs more than once and I assure you had I a weapon, I'd have taken that dog out in a NY minute. Wouldn't you?

Pet owners do stupid things with their dogs and then want to absolve themselves of any responsibility by trying to convince the public via the media that Cujo is really Lassie. This is the same mentality that  goes to the press saying their son was "such a really good boy" after he just raped and murdered an 90 year old woman for $7.00.

For every story like the ones here, there are most likely a hundred or more involving Leo's and dogs that did not lead to the death of the animal. Fair is fair.......why don't we ever see those reports on the news or on breed boards? Here in FL a K-9 officer is much more likely to have his own dog killed than he is to kill someone's else's. Those stories are given no more attention than a one inch blurp on the 6 page of The Tampa BayTimes.

Give the cops a break, you might need one to save your own butt one day.






 

If at any point you spotlight bad behavior by individuals the cape of the good officers is used to shield them almost every single time. Im not sure I will ever understand that. Why in the world would anyone want to use their good name to try and save crappy people within their organization. I see no other organization anywhere that goes as far.

 

 

BabyEagle, I completely forgot about the evidence on animal abusers. That is an excellent point. 

That's probably smart.

So, do you think the LEO's of Fulton MO underwent mandatory training?  It would seem VERY relevant to SWAT operations.