Steroids Used when Showing Dogs? - Page 1

Do you think there are any dogs that are shown that are put on steroids, to bulk them up when they are showing? Can dogs be checked for steroids before showing? What would happen to a Breeder if caught doing this? If it is one of the top males, and the male is used for stud, can this hurt the breed genetically? I figured I woulld ask this since Baseball, Football, Track, and Bicycle people do this in order to win, why not people with top dogs?

Anyone know?

Dawn

It could be done.  I think it is unlikely that dogs would put up with injections every day, but they could easily take the less effective bills and potions.  I can think of things I probably shouldn't mention that could affect growth and muscularity.

It seems very unlikely that it could affect genes of offspring.

I reply to posts when I know about the topic. I write from events I have experienced and seen. I have been around athletes both canine and human all my life.  I am very aware of what competition at top level entails.

I am hesitant to reply to this thread, as I'm certain I will be flamed as an abuser of AAS and a dope dealer. a querry about AAS was posted, so I will reply.

There are no injectable AAS that would be given every day. The best steroid for a canine's conditioning period will vary from Conditioner to conditioner. I know some who refuse to give their charge an IM injection during the training period
They will give B 12 injections Sub Q, but only use tabs for their AAS.

For tabs most prefer Anavar. For an injectible most prefer Equipoise(boldenone undecylenate). This is a very safe roid. It has an active-Life of 7-9 days, so weekly injections suffice.

The use of AAS(Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids) in canines is certainly nothing new.  Top greyhound Racing kennels have been using them for decades.  The use of AAS have certainly not been limited to Greyhounds either.

No Steroid is a magic elixir. They are simply a tool that aids the Canine or human athlete in recovery, muscle building, and some like Equipoise will increase the Red blood cell count and aid in the transport of oxygen as well as improve nutrient transport, making less food become more efficient.

You would really have to give crazy massive dosages, to cause damage to a Canine with a cycle of AAS. If done properly there shoud be no negative effects what so ever.

Just like humans, some Canines are better candidates for AAS, and their bodies respond better than others. Other variables come into play as well when thinking of using AAS. I would be much more apt to use AAS on a hard gainer, than I
would an easy keeper who has difficulty losing fat and unhealthy weight.

A trainer of a performance dog should stay away from Winstrol or Winstrol-V as Winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give bigger tendons. However, the body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury. I can't tell you how many athletes work out anaerobically and become injured while on winstrol. Baseball players who sprint all out from a stationary position, winstrol should be the LAST drug they choose. Most of them like winstrol because they don't get the weight gain from it but it is very detrimental to athletes who train for any sport anaerobically. Tendons tear easily on it.

In the 70's I knew dog trainers who loved the Roid Maxibolin. It was popularwith most all DVM's. In reality Maxibolin had very weak Anabolic properties.

I even knew dog trainers of weight pull dogs, who would put a few Cheque drops on their charge's tongue right before Showtime. Cheque drops had no anabolic(muscle building) properties what so ever, but their androgenic(masculinizing) properties were off the charts. 

In regards to canines with joint problems, I assure you that there is nothing on the planet that aids joints as well as Deca Durabolin (nandrolone decanoate). Deca works on two fronts as an androgen, which have well-documented effects on
corticosteroids, and as a progestin to reduce inflammation. Knowledgable DVM's use Deca to treat canines with renal failure. 

The outstanding NCAA Heavy Weight Champion Wrestler and MMA Fighter, Mark Kerr, put it best when he said,"Steroids will not make you crazy if the tendency isn't there already just as they won't make you a great athlete if you aren't

Equipoise I use on my Race Horses (Geldings) an androgen ... pretty much increases red blood cell production, and increases oxygen uptake. For horses it produces super strength gains and tremendous muscle when taken in a 2cc doses a few times a week. I know other trainers that give 10 CC injections every 2 weeks and others that give 10 cc doses 48 hours out a race plus 10 cc every week. Serious results either way ... LOL talk about land sharks.

I use Equipoise with Ventipulmin Syrup for max benefits. Amazing.

I wouldn't imagine using either on my dogs though, especially studs with Equipoise.... if it has the same results as on a horse .. I have 3 horses on Equipoise now that I have to put danger and orange standing cones around that area because they will literally tear your head off or any flesh they can grab. They are a joy to ride otherwise. Equipoise also makes them shine like glass.

Here's a pix of a F Bomber ... to show you the glass on the coat. :o)~

Your right on spot BabyEagle.  Equipoise is used on Horses, Canines, Roosters and Humans.

 Never should anyone give a blanket dosage, of say 1/2 cc. Different brands of Equipoise have different potency. Alin has an equipoise that is 250mg per ml. Ganabol has one that is 50mg per ml. Since a cc = ml, you can see that a cc of one is 5X stronger than a cc of the other.

There are many brands out there. Here are just a few
BOLDENONA-E (Balkan Pharmaceuticals)
BOLDENONA-E
ULTRAGAN 100 100MG/ML
BOLDEBAL-H 50MG/ML
EQUIPOISE 25MG,50MG, /ML
ULTRAGAN 50 50MG/ML
GANABOL 25MG, 50MG/ML
PACE 25MG/ML
VENBOL 25MG/ML

If one had an underweight canine who could benefit from a 6 to 8wk cycle of Equipoise, most any knowledgable DVM would agree to weekly injections of 50 to 75mg's.

Equipoise has become much more popular in recent years since dosages hit 200mg/ml

Men get good results from a 300-600mg weekly total.   Recently, companies like British Dragon have begun offering Boldenone in a much higher concentration (200mgs/ml) making injections much easier.  Women have made excellent progress with dosages of 50-100mg total weekly doses, and this usually means a  1 injections weekly schedule. Women as a rule, seem to prefer less scar-tissue build up than men are comfortable with.  In this dose range, women almost never report virilizing side effects, and usually only experienced an elevated libido. Increased hair growth on face and legs is, of course, possible (though not probable)..

Liver toxicity is not an issue with Boldenone, and it can be used for long times on eit

Wow.  Very knowledgeable and revealing.  Thanks for having the courage to share it here.

Thank You Bucko, I really appreciate that! I still can't get over BabyEagle's Bomber. That has to be the most beautiful Horse I have ever seen.

so the question still remains,, do you think people are using steroids on their dogs before they show them.

i dont know.  i have never heard of it.  knowing some of the things that people do(shoe polish to make colors or hide light spots),,, it would not surprise me to find out that it is happening.

john