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Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 01 March 2013 - 15:03

ChrisAmy -  you said you did have her 'papers',  'cos they confirmed
her birth date.  Do you not at least have something that tells you the
names of the male and the female you just posted pictures of  ?
Info already on the site might be relevant to one or other of their
ancestors, even if you have no further generations names.

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 01 March 2013 - 15:03

I helped a friend whelp a litter of pups. The biggest was 22 oz. The runt was only 9 oz .  By the time the pups went to their new homes at 8 weeks, the runt had caught up to her sisters in weight, and matured at  about 75 lbs. 

A lot has to do with space in the womb, and how big an attachment the placenta has.  I don't know if that's true about the eggs all attaching at once, but I DO know DNA test show a litter can have more than one sire, so the eggs are not all released at the same time, or that would be impossible.

Also, before implantation, the eggs are not just sitting there in suspended animation. They are busy dividing and growing, so an egg fertilized at a later mating will NOT be as mature as one fertilized at the first mating.

(I'm a former biology teacher, so I know about this stuff.)

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 01 March 2013 - 15:03

Sunsilver - spot on .  And not only can one litter have two sires,
but if the pair are running together, the same sire can fertilise
some younger embryos at a second tie.

by ChrisAmy on 03 March 2013 - 19:03

Wow I had no idea that one litter can have more than one sire!! I'm so glad I posted in here thanks guys!

Update on her...she is free from worms! Acting like a different puppy than when we first got her but still as sweet as ever. She is such a cuddler.

She is still tiny though. Keeping up with her weight daily and she has gained a little weight in the past 5 days and shes just at 7.4lbs now and 10 weeks tomorrow! Still a very tiny puppy!

rtdmmcintyre

by rtdmmcintyre on 03 March 2013 - 19:03

I have the runt of a litter.  she grew up and is still smaller then her brother and sister that I know where they are. Still inside breed standard but toward the lower end in size.  But she has the heart of a Lion.  Wouldn't trade her for any two dogs.  She is currently in Germany and doing great.  Love and training and you will never feel regret only extreme pride.

Reggie

by ChrisAmy on 03 March 2013 - 23:03

Hi Reggie,
Do you have any pictures of her when she was a puppy? And also, how big did she end up being?

by lizak on 07 August 2013 - 03:08

Hi I think I got a puppy from the same breeder, she is also on the smaller side. How is your puppy doing?

GSDNewbie

by GSDNewbie on 07 August 2013 - 08:08

Did you meet the sellers in a parking lot or somthing as to how you are just now getting the info? There can be more than one sire per litter, there can be different ages to pups just as dragonfry suggested, the pup could just be small due to less food than more assertive pups and the worms, they can also be papers from a different litter attached to your puppy from a different breeding for all we know. With current pet breeding and the switching going on with papers here in the usa you have no clue if the puppy is what they say without knowing for sure the kind of person you bought from and then they can still fool you anyhow. What registry is the papers from?.... I just do not see at this point what it matters as long as your pet puppy is healthy and you have a good time with her. I wish you all the best in continued health and happiness of your puppy.





    After posting I noticed this is a thread from back in March............

by Blitzen on 07 August 2013 - 09:08

OFA will register a litter sired by 2 different sires as long as the parentage of each puppy is confirmed by them using DNA. It's called a dual sired litter.

 

dragonfry

by dragonfry on 07 August 2013 - 11:08

I went to a breeding seminar with Dr Hutchinson years ago at University of Florida. He's one of the top Repo Vets in the country.
And he's were i got the info that eggs are released over several days as they matured. Not dumped all at once like fish eggs. And birds only produce 1 egg at a time but they can have twins if the egg has a double yoke.
So i is possible that this little girl is from the same parents with two or three ties. But really it doesn't matter at all as long as she is healthy and happy. Some times smaller is better.
Fry





 


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