Are We There Yet? -Homeward Finale Redoux - Page 6

"Anyone can accidently leave a gate open....no different than locking yourself out of your car (I've done that numerous times). "

"a gate"?  Per Molly, it was an habitual occurrence:

What A Country - Homeward bound -2
by eichenluft on 13 January 2010 - 20:01
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OH, and the board monies for the last week of having her dogs here, is because I fired her from cleaning kennels after "the last straw was broken" - Shelley left so many gates open I lost count. One time causing a bitch fight (my two females) another time causing a loose boarder (I live on a busy road, gates cannot be left open for any reason). Other gates open caught in time (by me) to avert another crisis. Then I let dogs out only to discover my stud dog in the small-dog yard with two small dog (boarders) (gate between yards left open by Shelley). He could have seriously injured or killed them, and may have if they had confronted him or I hadn't been right there.

But just because Molly posted this on the internet doesn't make it true, just as none of us can know whether Shelley was actually abused - the simple fact is none of the rest of us were there for these events.  So it's only fair that Shelley have a chance to weigh in at some point, once she is settled.  

The other issue here that no one has yet recognized is that both these women are dog breeders who rely upon the PDB as part of their sales base.  Damaged reputations aren't exactly helpful when it comes to selling dogs.  So there's a lot more riding on this than whose fan club is bigger or more vocal, and it's a significant part of why I suggested that Shelley follow up on this, when she is able to.  

DD -- Who are you to "demand" the truth?  This is between them -- NOT YOUR BUSINESS !    As I have stated before, they are each looking at the situation from their Own Perspective.  

Back off; no explanation is owed to you nor anyone for that matter.  

The "between them" bit went by the boards after Geblaut's post.  

I do, however, find it interesting that you could seemingly care less that Molly's reputation has been harmed by this Geblaut person.  

I also notice you neglected to continue the discussion about the gate that you started.  Why is that? 

DD, now I know you are an ass. You are wrong. Ask Jackie, she saw the bruises. And I am pretty damn sure you are a man.

"Give it up -- go away."

Your non-response is all the answer anyone needs as to your impartiality, Maggie.  Might as well just break out the pom-poms and forget about appearances.

"You are wrong."

I never said Shelley wasn't abused, so there's nothing for me to be wrong - or right - about.

DD -- we are going in circles.  I said "give it up" because it is NOT for any of us on the Forum to make a judgement of who is right and who is wrong.   "We" -- ALL of us on the Forum -- have no right to demand that we want the truth.   The truth is their perception --  not ours.   Do you not understand what I am saying?   I just want Shelley and her dogs to get to their destination safely.    Stop being "obsessed" with this.   Have a good evening,

Don made a point and others made theirs. Now that all "concerned" have stated and restated their opinions, can we back to the actual point of the thread? :-) Shelley should have been trekking up I-5 toward Modesto today--maybe even having brunch in Modesto in the morning. How about the thread go back to that? l. JMHO

Mystere
Yes, i guess it is night over there now so today your time she should be there and that will be great, but once this thread dies there will be another mud sling one to follow that is certain it is a trait on this forum for some to want to do it
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