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Phil Behun

by Phil Behun on 25 March 2010 - 00:03

I have no problem with Bart Bellon, never said I did.  In fact one of my A'Tim daughters was bred to Zodt producing Dovre Fjeld Bonito.  Bonito passed his DMC Korung at the tender age of 19 mos.  I have a young male out of my Master son bred to Zany that I'm really excited about.  This makes him Master de Alphaville Bohemia grandson on the top and an A'Tim grandson on the bottom.  Mike is a phony and in my opinion is overrated.  Again my opinion is just that, my opinion if you want to train with him go right ahead, I'd rather do flyball.

by Jon luc on 25 March 2010 - 00:03

I will give  you a case study and you decide. This Young fellow is
just starting out in the USA and he goes to a friend of mine. She is
a Older German lady who is well known for her bad temper.
But she knows dogs,( GSD's) very well. He ask her to import
a dog from Germany that only she could do. The dog was a
great dog and he won everything with it. But he himself really
did not have a clue how to train dogs. But everybody thought he
did and went to his training club to learn. It wasn't until years
later that he started winning again after attending every clinic he
could. During the time he was teaching other people how to train their dog, he did
not know what he was doing. He was mean, rude, and self centered.
Mike and Ivan are not at all like this guy. They have worked very hard
to gain the confidence, as trainers.  If I am right about Mike, that he is a
very good trianer  time will tell. And in fact I think I could say he already is, because
his methods are fundamentally sound and he is a very good teacher. Do not fault
Mike in any way please. Mike will never have to explain himself to any one. People
already know he is a good trainer.

Phil Behun

by Phil Behun on 25 March 2010 - 00:03

Nope, there's always used cars.

by wrestleman on 25 March 2010 - 00:03

They are all good at what they do.........but the proof may be on the podium and it seems that belongs to Ivan lock stock and barrel. He and his dogs continue to win on an international level. I am sure there are many other top trainers but Ivan seems to be able to breed, raise and train a dog to win at any level and I don't think many others can do that..

CrysBuck25

by CrysBuck25 on 25 March 2010 - 01:03

Thank you to those who answered my question that I posted above...

I didn't think the e-collar was a horrible thing, though like any other training tool it can be abused.  I just wondered why everyone uses them, and what they did before the collars were made.

Thanks again, and I didn't mean to carry this thread OT like I did...Just struck me curious, and I had to ask.

Crys

by Jon luc on 25 March 2010 - 02:03

The case study is true, the guy ( not Mike or Ivan) was on the podium many times with
a dog Margot had brought over here. Yet he was not a trainer.
Just like a trainer is not a breeder. It was hard for Ivan, he did
not win his first second or third time out. I think when he  finally did
win it was one of the biggest brake throughs for the Malinois people. He
Also went outside his bloodline.  But you are right Wrestleman about
his IPO world wide and some of his dogs have done very well.
I don't think anyone has achieved more for the Malinois in the USA
than Ivan.


4pack

by 4pack on 25 March 2010 - 02:03

Wow, I didn't know Glen knew Bart Bellon. I just saw Glen Saturday at training, I wish I would have known and could have asked him some questions. Hope it's not another 3 yrs before I bump into him again.

by Jon luc on 25 March 2010 - 02:03

Yes 4pack, back in the days of Aluring Nikita Glen's Champion. Glen
liked some of the dogs Bart had, they were very good dogs.

cage

by cage on 25 March 2010 - 07:03

Lief,
There is an icon which looks like a globe with a part of chain to me - it states insert/edit a link ,that´s for adding the links.

Lief

by Lief on 25 March 2010 - 10:03

Thanks Cage! I will try it!! Uh Oh..that seemed to just embed the link,I see people embeding video in the post??





 


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