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by yoshy on 12 February 2010 - 01:02
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/108709.html
everyone wanted proof of ddr dogs working. I know this is 15 years old but i just happened to come across it researching pedigrees for my next female. take a look at the ddr dogs in this pedigree!
everyone wanted proof of ddr dogs working. I know this is 15 years old but i just happened to come across it researching pedigrees for my next female. take a look at the ddr dogs in this pedigree!
by bgstout on 12 February 2010 - 01:02
yoshy the dog is what i consider belgium. his g-father robby is ddr. i would not consider him to be 100 % ddr.

by Pharaoh on 12 February 2010 - 02:02
I don't understand this question.
Here is Pharaoh's pedigree www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/551839.html
There is not one dog in his pedigree who is not titled, most are SchH 111, many FH's and PSH and a few BSP. Both of his parents are breed surveyed etc etc etc.
If Pharaoh does not get titled, it will not be his fault. It would be mine.
Pharaoh was the first American litter from his father, and the first litter from his mother.
He is not lacking in prey drive at all, to my dismay. He is a very serious property guard. He is incredibly strong and athletic and downright punky. I am not the best dog handler, to say the least.
Michele
Here is Pharaoh's pedigree www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/551839.html
There is not one dog in his pedigree who is not titled, most are SchH 111, many FH's and PSH and a few BSP. Both of his parents are breed surveyed etc etc etc.
If Pharaoh does not get titled, it will not be his fault. It would be mine.
Pharaoh was the first American litter from his father, and the first litter from his mother.
He is not lacking in prey drive at all, to my dismay. He is a very serious property guard. He is incredibly strong and athletic and downright punky. I am not the best dog handler, to say the least.
Michele
by VomMarischal on 12 February 2010 - 02:02
I don't know that I agree with that, Michele...I consider you a really good trainer....calm, patient, and consistent, all the things I am not. Sigh.

by Jenni78 on 12 February 2010 - 02:02
bgstout, what dog of Steve's did you have the littermate to? Gero? Steve can do great things w/a dog. And where/who are you? PM me if you want.

by yoshy on 12 February 2010 - 02:02
Bgstout,
Why in the 3rd generation are all the dogs listed registered as ddr? You pull up files online from all of them and they are listed as ddr or from ddr kennels. Now when you get closer to him a couple of the kennels are russian and in other areas but the original 8 have ddr attached to there name everywhere you look on the web. Unless over looked something which woulnt be the first time.
So am I looking in the wrong place and being given false information?
Why in the 3rd generation are all the dogs listed registered as ddr? You pull up files online from all of them and they are listed as ddr or from ddr kennels. Now when you get closer to him a couple of the kennels are russian and in other areas but the original 8 have ddr attached to there name everywhere you look on the web. Unless over looked something which woulnt be the first time.
So am I looking in the wrong place and being given false information?

by Pharaoh on 12 February 2010 - 02:02
Thanks for the vote of confidence, but, Ivan knows that I am not very coordinated. He let me join the Contra Costa club because my dog had such a monster bite. Ajay Singh used to visit there a lot. (If you are lurking, feel free to speak up Ajay)
Kim (Just K9s) will testify that I am a clutz. She described Pharaoh as "just a big moose". Also, she knew my first dog Shadow because we both belonged to the now defunct North Bay club.
I started Pharaoh at Menlo Park with Joel Monroe and he said titling Pharaoh should be no problem. However, I had to have an assistant so I wouldn't get planted face first in the dirt. Ajay was a witness there too. He is too much of a nice guy to give his true observation.
I am making progress on obedience. Hopefully, this spring I can unload my house in P.C. paradise and start again in Arizona.
Michele
Kim (Just K9s) will testify that I am a clutz. She described Pharaoh as "just a big moose". Also, she knew my first dog Shadow because we both belonged to the now defunct North Bay club.
I started Pharaoh at Menlo Park with Joel Monroe and he said titling Pharaoh should be no problem. However, I had to have an assistant so I wouldn't get planted face first in the dirt. Ajay was a witness there too. He is too much of a nice guy to give his true observation.
I am making progress on obedience. Hopefully, this spring I can unload my house in P.C. paradise and start again in Arizona.
Michele

by Elkoorr on 12 February 2010 - 02:02
Yoshy, he is not 100% DDR, but also not enough to consider him Belgien. There is a good chunk of west german in there too. And I dont see any Russian? But dont let you fool with SZ900#, those are re-issued registration numbers. I dont now how Canto von Amicos was able to sire within east germany, but he did. He is also in my girls pedigree. She is not absolute 100%, but comes pretty close to it. She will get her Rally Advanced title beginning of March (entry is set), and SCHH1 in May/June, exact date depends on my work schedule.
www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/7/565105.html
sorry for the distorted picture, I think Oli is working on this issue. When you click on the pic then the new one will pop up.
www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/7/565105.html
sorry for the distorted picture, I think Oli is working on this issue. When you click on the pic then the new one will pop up.
by bgstout on 12 February 2010 - 02:02
Yoshy
Orry-Belgium
Verwin- ddr father dutch mother
Robby-ddr
Gilla-Dutch
Falko vom Haus Sindern-West Ger
Tiekerhook-Dutch
Bella has ddr and goes back to a VA west german dog.
So the pedigree has many different dog but is not 100 % ddr. I'm not sure what you mean by Russian?
Pharaoh I would consider your dogs ped 100 % ddr.
Orry-Belgium
Verwin- ddr father dutch mother
Robby-ddr
Gilla-Dutch
Falko vom Haus Sindern-West Ger
Tiekerhook-Dutch
Bella has ddr and goes back to a VA west german dog.
So the pedigree has many different dog but is not 100 % ddr. I'm not sure what you mean by Russian?
Pharaoh I would consider your dogs ped 100 % ddr.

by Pharaoh on 12 February 2010 - 03:02
Yoshy,
It is pretty mixed, but, 4 of the eight great grand parents are DDR.
BG Stout,
It is close to 100%. If you look at his father Aron's pedigree you will see in the seventh generation, Marko Cellerland SV bred to a CKSP female and producing a male with a CKSP pedigree who was bred to a DDR female (Haus Himple) and the male offspring is DDR (Ritterberg)
Michele
It is pretty mixed, but, 4 of the eight great grand parents are DDR.
BG Stout,
It is close to 100%. If you look at his father Aron's pedigree you will see in the seventh generation, Marko Cellerland SV bred to a CKSP female and producing a male with a CKSP pedigree who was bred to a DDR female (Haus Himple) and the male offspring is DDR (Ritterberg)
Michele
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