Seeking GSD adults for sale near Illinois - Page 3

I have helped lots of people find dogs. People want a good dog and don't know where to turn and who to trust. They know me, trust me, ask me to get it for them. I have yet to make a dime doing it, actually.

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Rugersguru,

Many rescues even breed specific retriever and shepherd rescues do not want there dogs to go to working homes.

Ignorance is a big part of it.

I have heard everything from "we dont want the dog to live a life of servitude" too " you have to be harsh on the dogs to get them to do that and we dont condone it" or "protection work is dangerous and a liability" and so on and so on.

I know a lady that was looking for a nice lab service dog candidate. She looked for over 6 months till she found a suitable candidate that could be rescued and tasked with the work. Many rescues wouldnt have it.

Also, a rescue here in maryland had a woman go into a dog run with an unsound dog and ended up being bit badly. the GSD didnt let go " so the dog had previous bite work" (their words) so noone can do it. its a liability. Also rescues have a return to rescue clause and they have noone whom can handle dogs of a higher caliber than pets. And its a liability for them to readopt out a working dog into a pet home and there are too few working homes who want a rescue.

With all of my rescue experience I have met one that will place mali's into working homes. and its still kinduve done off to the side you know.

I personally disagree with this of course but its the way rescues think. I had always argued it. The dogs i always favored were the special handle dogs. Generally any dog that had any working capability were dropped off for being too much dog would end up as special handle dogs and black balled because noone could handle them. Many of them are falsely label and incorrectly assessed because of the ignorance of the volunteers and the dogs suffer due to it.

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OP,

Howfar are you willing to travel for these dogs. I know a top notch people here in MD and PA that could help if you are serious about procuring 10 dogs as ppd's.

Good dogs are where you find them. Do your own homework. I would not necessarily limit myself to geographical region or listen to anyone on this forum or any other person. Go see the dogs in person. Every kennel which sells dogs has good dogs and shit dogs.  Here you will get good advice which is hard to separate from gossip. I have purchased my first dog in USA in NY and lived in Wyoming. I was very happy.
 Prager Hans 

Well, coming from a person that does rescue and also trains my dogs to bite (Sch), I think that you are making generalizations about rescues. I have placed many partially or fully trained all the way to Sch3 GSDs over the years, but, only in the correct situation. Two of them in just the past week and a half actually.
For the most part what you are saying is correct, but, not entirely.
Please do not discount the fact that rescues operate as a business and are susceptible to lawsuits they can not afford. Rescues are also looked upon more harshly in that, if I were to place a dog in to the wrong situation and it bit someone or worse, I would be held to a much higher standard than a breeder, trainer, kennel, etc. Rescues "should have known better" whereas a breeder or kennel can easily slough it off as, "the new owners are idiots and didn't do what I told them to do."

The other thing to realize here is that very, very few people that are looking for personal protection dogs go to rescues to look for them. It isn't really the same market. Most people go to rescues to look for a companion pet and might hope it will bark if they hear strange noises outside.
I can't really remember the last time I heard, "Hey, I'm looking for a PPD" and heard the response, "I know this rescue that is just teeming with them. All shapes, sizes, and colors! Here's their number."

My concern with this situation concerning Doberdoodle (and no offense to you either, only making a fair assessment) is that if you are qualified enough to be placing this type of dog with your "clients", you should already know where to find these dogs.
If not, I would find someone that you can very heavily rely on to help you with this situation. Not just suggestions from anonymous people on the internet.

It sounds like someone with money decided they want a dog Now. 1 problem I see is , how many people raising the kind of dog you are requesting would feel comfortable giving a beautiful young male to you so you can hand him over to who knows who.
If you would take the time to search this site you would find breeders in your area and actually know which ones are really good. Trust me I live 1 hour from Chicago and I have already done what you are asking. Get to work start reading.

Seltzerhaus in Springfield always has good dogs.
I also have a 3 year old bitch for sale she is a great working dog if you would like to see her pedigree you can look her up on the site.
Nelli von Seltzerhaus.