DDR dogs and sport - Page 3

Not a fair request, bgstout. Proportionally, there are far fewer DDR dogs, plus the sheer fact that many of them are intentionally being bred to be couch potato, raccoon-eyed, good-looking blobs by people who couldn't physically keep up with anything else. The furbaby crowd has really screwed up the perception of what a DDR dog can/should be. Sorry if that pisses people off to hear, but dogs across the board are simply a reflection of ourselves.

A DDR dog should be more than capable; it's the marketing of the "DDR" brand that is killing their reputation. I can't wait until they're not trendy anymore!!!

Jenni  I am just curious if anyone is actively competing in Schutzhund with a full ddr dog? 

I know there are fewer ddr dogs.  Many people have posted on how they love the working ability of ddr dogs, so I am asking where are they?

Sure, people are. Elkoorr is one I can think of, right off the top of my head. She's about to trial for her SchH1 this spring. I don't think as many are competing in this country; in this country we see more of what I described in my previous post.

As soon as I get relocated from the SF Bay Area to Arizona, I will be back to training Pharaoh.  I started him, but, I got hit with a (non-dog) lawsuit that was just settled in September, and the liablility scared me.

Michele

www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/551839.html

Personally, I didn't buy my dog (3/4 DDR unless I read the pedigree wrong - which is possible) to go out and get titles. I bought him for his asshole attitude and the way he looked at me when I went to the kennel to meet him. I think titles are important for breeding purposes...I'm not planning on breeding him. He  doesn't have a title, but he demonstrates his working ability every day. His job is to sit in the car with me at 5 am in the morning outside a random McDonald's and scare the living hell out of anyone that gets close. He has actually caused a person to fall on their butt - his bark is like a machine gun. I travel a lot and have a crazy ex-boyfriend, so this is the type of dog I was looking for. A serious dog.

(Edit: Just realized this makes him sound like he's always barking and going crazy for no reason - No.)

DDR dogs do tend to be marketed differently...which changes who buys them and what they end up doing with the dog. Just reread my previous paragraph as an example. My dog was marketed as a green protective companion with the potential for "much more". That "more" was left undefined, because the breeder admittedly had not worked with the dog and could not pass judgement on his abilities.

With that said, in my unprofessional opinion I don't think he will have a problem titling when I get around to it...after my wedding. (I only have time for one extracurricular activity during grad school :( I hate event planning. ) He's crazy for tugs, balls, sticks, rocks, pants, food, water, ice, things hidden in boxes, things in my hand, things other dogs have...he LOVES to tug, he has great focus even though he had not done focus work prior to 20 months (when I purchased him).

DDR dogs don't have a problem getting titles...it's their owners that have the problem ;)

My dog: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/picturegallery/13192.html
You can click through to his pedigree...I think it rates a "meh".

There are still DDR kennels in Germany that breed dogs that go straight back to the East dogs without a break. Do these dogs in Germany have titles??? I have a DDR female currently that has produced 5 dogs with police dog titles. Does that qualify as "work"..????? I agree with Jenni on this one because its not the dog its more the prey dog mentality of so many clubs in U.S. They don't have problems getting titled in Germany!!!!

mollyandjack, that is a really gorgeous dog you have there!!

No, Gustav, they sure don't have problems getting titled in Germany. Are they different somehow when the cross the ocean? Doubtful. I think it's the mentality and approach most training takes here in the US. We breed for single purpose and over the top prey/play and that's how we traing, and vice versa, and the cycle repeats itself.

Thanks RedSable! :) It's funny that he's turned out to be such a pretty boy, because when I went to take a look at him he was shedding...looked nothing like he does now. Scruffy, medium gray sable at time of purchase haha! It's hard to describe what I mean when I say that his "attitude" drew me in... When he doesn't know you, he looks straight into your eyes and you know exactly what he thinks of you. I've had people we've met on the street say "Oh wow, his eyes were cold as ice until you shook my hand and said hi...now he's not even paying attention to me!"

God, have I sufficiently derailed this thread?

Gustav   Your ddr female that produced pd dogs was she bred to a ddr male or czech?   I just don't see 100 % ddr dogs being titled or used in service.  Im not knocking ddr dogs.  I have titled a male that was half ddr and half czech and believe me it was hard work.  HIs littermate did good work with Steve Lino.

Jenni78  I really like your female.  You should stop out at our club training sometime. It would be great to see her and you could watch some of the club dogs.    We are having a trial in March and June with SV judge.