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raymond

by raymond on 27 January 2010 - 22:01

Oh so you are saying a child who has been exposed to the occult and such things will not emulate what they have learned? Are you also saying that harry potter does in no way influence children to explore the ways of occultism! Now can we all agree that exposing children to serial movies about vampires and ocult practice will not influence the choices they make?? Opal are you a degreed person to make such a profound clinical diagnosis?

rainforestscouts

by rainforestscouts on 27 January 2010 - 23:01

Keith,

Weren't you the one who went all self righteous on the political speak?  I was holding out hope that you were a thinker rather than just a hack.  I was disappointed in your inability to think past your talking points and address me on facts alone.  Now you show your true stripes by attacking the sincere beliefs of many on this site.  Sad, really.  So, now, from the luxurious perch of historical perspective, and in accordance with your last bit of advice to me, I am ready to declare that you are indeed a hindend.

With all the respect that you deserve,

RFS

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 28 January 2010 - 00:01

 * "A lot of people have mounted "trophies" of animals that they've hunted." *

And alot of people mount their own "trophies". Is this illegal now ?

AKGeorgias mom

by AKGeorgias mom on 28 January 2010 - 04:01

Raymond-

My degree is not in literature or the occult, but having read the Harry Potter series it is a classic story of good versus evil, with good triumphing over evil.  Not much different than the Chronicles of Narnia, which has an obviously Christian undertone.  There has been much discussion about the Twilight series promoting abstinence rather than indulgence.  Whether it's good literature is another question entirely.

My experience has been that the children that I've worked with that have the most serious psychiatric problems, and could be classified as sociopaths if they were adults, have experienced severe trauma and abuse.  By the time they were old enough to be able to read Harry Potter, et al. the damage had been done and they had already victimized animals and other children. 

My point is that for serious mental illness, reading the books changes nothing - the underlying disorder is already present.  Kids are easily influenced to experiment with things, but experimenting is different.  I do get passionate about this because in many communities children are not able to get help until they have already caused harm instead of when they first start to experience problems. 

I have not offered a diagnosis of the individual in this case, I am merely attempting to make the point that popular culture does not cause mental illness.  I do have the training to diagnose mental health disorders, but anyone with experience of serious mental illness would be able to provide the same information.

Opal

CrysBuck25

by CrysBuck25 on 28 January 2010 - 17:01

Weird is right, Maggie...Very weird.

But hey, look at it this way...

Weird is the new "normal".

Crys

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 28 January 2010 - 18:01

"Now you show your true stripes by attacking the sincere beliefs of many on this site. Sad, really."

Did I call that or what?

MaggieMae

by MaggieMae on 28 January 2010 - 18:01

Keith, I sent you a Link to read on the "Tickled" thread -- please read and give me your "take on it."

4pack

by 4pack on 28 January 2010 - 18:01

Raymond, you are looney yourself if you think watching a few movies will ruin a child. My daughter is 15 and grew up with Harry Potter and now The Vampire stuff. She never got into magic, and she hasn't came home with a new set of teeth yet. She didn't suddenly get home from school and decide to eat her pets instead of feeding them! Rediculous. A good kid is a good kid, a bad one doesn't need a movie to set it off.

Would I call this kid weird? Yes, she changed the way she dresses, got kicked out of school and the cutting up of the dog in the house is just nasty. Can't believe mom would allow it. Obviously she hangs out with some kids she shouldn't, draw the line mom and get that kid back in school!

raymond

by raymond on 28 January 2010 - 20:01

Well should I return your compliment?would it be wonderfull if we could ask those two young boys what caused them to kill like they did at columbine ? a daughter @ 15 is a precarious time to be in!  Mine are far far past that point! Humm it was dungeons and dragons for my middle child! He is now 32 and has on several occassions admitted the unnatural influence the role playing game had on him!  Perhaps some of the more famous serial killers can shed some light upon the effects of occultism and witchcraft!   Is it not suffecient to teach our children that illicit sexual affairs with regular humans is ok with out further degrading the act with necromancy? Oh so lunacy is associated with the undue effectws of a few movies when the tests indicate the absurd amount of time our children watch television!

rainforestscouts

by rainforestscouts on 29 January 2010 - 17:01

Keith,

I guess you called it; all the while proving my point that you are a hack.  When the very thin veil of your intellect is pulled away, you are exposed for exactly what you are.

What ever happened to DR?

RFS






 


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