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by Elite k9 on 06 January 2010 - 13:01
by Gustav on 06 January 2010 - 15:01

by yoshy on 06 January 2010 - 15:01
I want to revive this topics as i think there are a lot of things left to learn about the czech lines. especially the PS lines.
What is it that is seperating this line from all others? mentally and physically.
How do they surpass other lines in working ability?
How are they preserving these lines from dilution?
What are we to exspect in the future from this line?
What type of people should be looking for these lines?
As i think there are many false stereotypes about these dogs out there.
I think Hans is our resident expert on this particular venue of lines but i wanted to open it up.
As many have already seen my post I have a ddr czech cross pup and is florished with PS dogs on his mothers side. I would love to know more about the dogs in his pedigree if anyone has seen them work. As I choose him off of my evaluation of him not his lines. Now the more I dig/research/keep ears open the more intrigued I get/am.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/progeny_pictures/434182.html V Vanesko vom Salztalblick
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/500247.html Yessy Anrebri

by yoshy on 06 January 2010 - 21:01

by sierradi@hughes.net on 07 January 2010 - 17:01
You can look up their pedigrees.
Nadia Von Gluckhaus. She looks like that Czech wolf that was bred into the GSDs there. Here is a link that shows the types from all over the world:
http://www.shawlein.com/The_Standard/13_Breed_Type/Breed_Types.html

Agatha Vom Stromhaven call name "Lexi"
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See all my dogs on my photobucket GSD slide show:
http://w132.photobucket.com/pbwidget.swf?pbwurl=http://w132.photobucket.com/albums/q6/sierradi/1169777337.pbw

by Prager on 07 January 2010 - 20:01

Jiri Novotny and Dargo Hajada
Jiri is going to come visit me here in Surprise AZ . We are offering somewhat informal presentation of genetics and PP and other training, problem solving and Q&A on 23rd and 24th of January. Bring your dog(s) too. Call me or PM me if you want to come and let me know the topics which would like to hear about. We will try to keep it small. 10 people or so. Cost $200. For that you get the above seminar, Jiri , Me, dog problem solving and free beer.
Prager Hans
623 388 5000
http:alpinek9.com

by Prager on 07 January 2010 - 22:01
To Yoshi
Part of the PM to him.
This is all long story. I'll try to make is short. The reason I started to import CZ dogs to US was because I love the breed and wanted the Americans to experience these exceptional dogs during the era when the GSD here in US were atrocious. The popularity of the z Ps type dogs now , I believe, is so high because, they are the epitome of a working dog as it was intended by Max v Stephanitz.
Why is that?
They are and were true "working" working GSDs. It was necessary for these dogs to actually to work and were bred by people who actually worked them. There are not many of such dogs these days ,... I mean dogs who truly work every day, except police, some herding and S&R and such. The rest are wannabees who are subject to fads, wishful thinking, and other warped ideas. The old Czech dogs and mainly z Ps dogs were actually working dogs and were bred that way by Czech border patrol under supervision of Karel Hartl and Jiri Novotny, and I then Imported them into USA.
How many police dept you know who breed successfully their own dogs like the Czech PS (Border patrol) have had done for decades. I do not know any. That is where the value is. Just like the Arabian horse is a standard so are these GSDs standard to the GSD.
That is what then led to improvement of the working GSD lines in USA . That is because there was something to look up to. People could say:"Oh that is what I want." I do not know much about breeding horses, but I know that performance of some lines are improved by let say Arabian hoses. And if I may, I would compare it to sport cars...everybody (sport cars ) wants to and compares itself to Ferrari. They say and make movies about it: " I have beaten Ferrari." "This is the first US car which have beaten Ferrari". "It is almost as good looking as Ferrari." You got my point.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
by jennie on 08 January 2010 - 22:01
www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/424217.html
Is the hips and elbows a problem in the czech dogs, pretty much HD-faults when I looked at the statistics from a kennel that breed with czech lines?

by Prager on 08 January 2010 - 23:01
I really do not know much about Swedish dogs.However it is exiting to hear that there are some other outfits who consistently produce working GSD based on their own experience and needs of obedience protection and scent work. Is there more info which you can provide?
Prager Hans
P.S. please reformulate this sentence. I do not understand it in this form:
"Is the hips and elbows a problem in the Czech dogs, pretty much HD-faults when I looked at the statistics from a kennel that breed with czech lines?"
by jennie on 08 January 2010 - 23:01
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