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by yellowrose of Texas on 25 December 2009 - 09:12
The study is very complex and two scientists in Houston were a part of the Houston Club who unanimously decided:
We do not want
synthetic chemical like mendiaone to be in the food eaten every day two times a day , in the liver of their german shepherds...The initial study was 40 pages and one of the members had to pay to get it..I have lost it and cannot find it...Doesnt matter, chemicals are not good in any form and not needed..too many ifs and too many doubts ..why subject a dog to one more chemical..? Many dog foods took it out after the study got brought to people attention.
Synthetic chemicals, preservatives, chemicals on corn , rice or any other mess found in commercial dog foods are eating away the dogs liver and immunity system . then you breathe and eat more chemicals and then owners wonder why the dogs fail at 6 yrs old>>>tumors of cancer are so much more previlant and the number of bad health in dogs has risen along with peoples.bad health..
If you do some checking you will find out Purina makes most of the dog foods for all these stores...under different names and no certain formula what ever they mop up off the floor...
Nestles is not a very reputable dog food company...it is a money making company with little concern about your dog or if it has the healthy formula you need..until a large group of dog orginazations took them to task and dogs died three years ago from mold and food tainted in China.
YR
We do not want
synthetic chemical like mendiaone to be in the food eaten every day two times a day , in the liver of their german shepherds...The initial study was 40 pages and one of the members had to pay to get it..I have lost it and cannot find it...Doesnt matter, chemicals are not good in any form and not needed..too many ifs and too many doubts ..why subject a dog to one more chemical..? Many dog foods took it out after the study got brought to people attention.
Synthetic chemicals, preservatives, chemicals on corn , rice or any other mess found in commercial dog foods are eating away the dogs liver and immunity system . then you breathe and eat more chemicals and then owners wonder why the dogs fail at 6 yrs old>>>tumors of cancer are so much more previlant and the number of bad health in dogs has risen along with peoples.bad health..
If you do some checking you will find out Purina makes most of the dog foods for all these stores...under different names and no certain formula what ever they mop up off the floor...
Nestles is not a very reputable dog food company...it is a money making company with little concern about your dog or if it has the healthy formula you need..until a large group of dog orginazations took them to task and dogs died three years ago from mold and food tainted in China.
YR
by judron55 on 25 December 2009 - 12:12
Maybe it's just me and my dogs.....Right now the kibble I'm using is Natural 26...who makes that? They had chcken hearts, backs, tripe and cottage cheese. ....Christmas breakfast!...they'll get a beef bone later this afternoon. I'm sure my sons will throw in some pizza crust:-)
by Jenni78 on 26 December 2009 - 13:12
Uglydog,
In a pinch, when there were a bunch of extra dogs here (12 total), I did buy some of that from Costco. I personally liked the puppy formula-higher fat and protein, less rice if I remember correctly. Would I feed it for years? Probably not, w/the vit K issue...BUT- that is such a debatable issue I really doubt your dog is going to drop dead from it in a few short months while money is tight. If I have to cut back on price of dog food, I add more raw when it's on sale. I feel better that way. The Kirkland's is the "worst" I have ever allowed my dogs to injest even one morsel of, and they did fine on it...but I literally only fed it to them for a couple weeks.
I can't help but think because I don't feed one thing over and over, my dogs don't have these stomach and allergy issues that people complain about. I have enough dogs (7) that I do not believe it's coincidence or luck.
When I was very sick and pregnant, I sent a couple of my dogs to a friend for a few mos. I ordered Canidae Grain Free from K9Cuisine.com and had it shipped to him. I was very impressed w/how they looked when they came home. I also think that is one of the cheapest grain-free foods on the market. Depends on where you live though; some say TOTW is cheaper, but not by me. Do your homework.
Another good one is NutriLife, which a puppy buyer told me he found on K9Cuisine.com also. I bought a pallet of each formula when I thought I was going to have more than a dozen for a while, and most did very well on it. I had one, my notoriously "hard keeper" who didn't, but it was just a general "doesn't looks os hot" not any specific bad problem. ABSOLUTELY NO CHEMICALS OR NASTY STUFF whatsoever. Made locally, packaged in Wisconsin. Not even a chance for anything suspect to get into it. Look into that as well http://www.nutrilifepetfood.com.
In a pinch, when there were a bunch of extra dogs here (12 total), I did buy some of that from Costco. I personally liked the puppy formula-higher fat and protein, less rice if I remember correctly. Would I feed it for years? Probably not, w/the vit K issue...BUT- that is such a debatable issue I really doubt your dog is going to drop dead from it in a few short months while money is tight. If I have to cut back on price of dog food, I add more raw when it's on sale. I feel better that way. The Kirkland's is the "worst" I have ever allowed my dogs to injest even one morsel of, and they did fine on it...but I literally only fed it to them for a couple weeks.
I can't help but think because I don't feed one thing over and over, my dogs don't have these stomach and allergy issues that people complain about. I have enough dogs (7) that I do not believe it's coincidence or luck.
When I was very sick and pregnant, I sent a couple of my dogs to a friend for a few mos. I ordered Canidae Grain Free from K9Cuisine.com and had it shipped to him. I was very impressed w/how they looked when they came home. I also think that is one of the cheapest grain-free foods on the market. Depends on where you live though; some say TOTW is cheaper, but not by me. Do your homework.
Another good one is NutriLife, which a puppy buyer told me he found on K9Cuisine.com also. I bought a pallet of each formula when I thought I was going to have more than a dozen for a while, and most did very well on it. I had one, my notoriously "hard keeper" who didn't, but it was just a general "doesn't looks os hot" not any specific bad problem. ABSOLUTELY NO CHEMICALS OR NASTY STUFF whatsoever. Made locally, packaged in Wisconsin. Not even a chance for anything suspect to get into it. Look into that as well http://www.nutrilifepetfood.com.
by ShelleyR on 26 December 2009 - 15:12
I know several VA dogs that eat Kirkland... Personally, I don't believe there is any such thing as a "complete" diet, good for the life of the dog, so I switch food 2-3 times a year and use supplements when I can/feel the need to.
How many folks break the budget on dog food and eat crap?
That would certainly be me, and a lot of other people I know.
SS
How many folks break the budget on dog food and eat crap?
That would certainly be me, and a lot of other people I know.
SS
by Scoutk9GSDs on 26 December 2009 - 15:12
I think there is a "blue light special" on Ol' Roy!
It gives your dog's waste a nice pleasant aroma as well.
It gives your dog's waste a nice pleasant aroma as well.
by Jenni78 on 26 December 2009 - 16:12
Shelley, me too. Before I struck gold and came upon all the free raw I can feed, I used to spend more than my mortgage payment some months feeding my dogs, and that's not an exaggeration. I always looked at it like this: it's not their fault my life's in shambles. ;-)
Scout, you're not really that funny. But then I've told you that before.
Scout, you're not really that funny. But then I've told you that before.
by ShelleyR on 26 December 2009 - 22:12
it's not their fault my life's in shambles.
My thoughts exactly. Bad enough I have hardly trained them in months, worried about my emotional baggage screwing them up. The least I can do is feed them well! The good news is that my emotional baggage is floating away at last, and I am moving right smack back into the lap of some of the best SchH training in the world.
Trying to remember how many titles my dogs have earned in Gary and Peggy's front yard... WAY healthier than some of the thoughts that have passed through the shallows of my brain over the last few months! :-))))
SS
My thoughts exactly. Bad enough I have hardly trained them in months, worried about my emotional baggage screwing them up. The least I can do is feed them well! The good news is that my emotional baggage is floating away at last, and I am moving right smack back into the lap of some of the best SchH training in the world.
Trying to remember how many titles my dogs have earned in Gary and Peggy's front yard... WAY healthier than some of the thoughts that have passed through the shallows of my brain over the last few months! :-))))
SS
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