Seeking GSD adults for sale near Illinois - Page 2

Check your local german shepherd rescue. I'm sure they are chalk full of decent dogs. Best not mention the bite work though, most rescue people freak over that.

TO ANSWER YOUR ?  MIKE DIEHLS KENNEL

 http://www.kriegshundkennels.com/

Most dogs I am interested in will be for companion and PP work, not competitive for shows, looking for level headed, sound, civil, and easy to live with.

Sounds like you Mittelwest may not be the right place to go for what you are looking for.  If I were really looking for a PP dog I would do more research and not just go by proximity.  Mike Diehl is a good recommendation. 

FWIW,

Jim

Sorry to change the subject, but why would a GSD rescue freak over a dog with bitework, or wanting one for bitework? You would think they understood why they were bred in the first place.
Just curious

The GSD rescues I personally know don't allow any dogs to do SchH or any sort of bitework, it's specified in their adoption agreement as well.

Now there are a couple who are cool with it under the radar, but with the others it's more than just a liability thing, they don't believe the dogs should be protection trained at all.  Even some GSD breeders (AKC) don't "believe in" protection training.  Morons.

I'm not getting my clients rescue dogs.  I would encourage them to do that on their own but they are looking for sound, healthy dogs with know temperament, OFA, and performance pedigree-- well bred.

There is more than one way to spell moron.

All I see is money changing hands and poor dogs caught in the middle.

Dogs deserve better than to be treated as commodities.

You are looking to buy dogs for your (clients), who are to be trained in personal protection and then sold to these (clients) for what I would guess is an arm and a leg.

I would ask anyone, first and foremost,
What is a dog for?    Why do domestic dogs exist?
What's missing here?

Breeders always go on about screening potential buyers, what red flags do you see here?


I see them.


Moons.

What are you saying, Moons?  I would rather sell someone a dog I know is quality than to leave them on their own to find a dog and come up with one from a bad breeder that isn't going to work out well, or to be ripped off by some PP dog website that sells dogs that aren't even trained or health screened.  Dogs are for companionship and secondarily for protection, competition, shows, etc. or other tasks.

Moons,
Many people have gone the way of having someone "be the middle man" in purchasing a dog or puppy.
We have "found & helped" purchase dogs & puppies for friends of ours several times.......not always a "red flag".
AND...people have also done the same with us....not everyone is "raping" the finances of others...
I think the sellers & buyers alike, should be selective and open for communication...period.
I understand "what" you are refering to....but I think you are "generalizing a bit much....
Glad to see & read your posts as always!
Robin

Yes, when you are getting people asking you to find and train the dog for them, there is a market and a need.  Someone wants a certain type of dog and they tell you, as a trainer, "This is what I am looking for..." but they dont either 1) have the time to search for that  2) have the connections  3) have the knowledge to choose the right dog, then there is a place for someone to sell dogs to people.  You don't have to be charging exorbitant amounts of money, either.  Some people don't even know what they want, i.e. they read something on the internet that says Malinois are great for protection so they buy one, not factoring in the rest of their lifestyle.  I can take an objective look and say this dog may be suited for you, but this dog probably not.  Some breeders are great at this "matchmaking" process, but not all are objective about their dogs.

If they want to buy from a fancy K-9 website and ship a dog in, maybe even from overseas, and take the risk to be royally ripped off, they can, as I've seen many people go through that.  Then what, fly the trainer in when you have a problem or need maintenance?  Would rather have them buy locally and from a trainer they know and trust.