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Pryantel Pamoate is sold by   www.revivalanimal.com       50 mg bottle  comes in several sizes or

Name under Evict..,   same as NEMEX       
Used it for years..for puppies only......
If you got a puppy wormed with it and it had worms  the breeder didnt do his job.

Bitch should have been wormed before bred.

Pups do have worms and Pyrantel Pamoate for pups only
Then use Panacur...Safeguard Goat Wormer at feed store is PAnacur

Pups should not be so wormy you have fill them with meds..

If you have whip worms you have to use stronger, People with deer, cattle etc can come up with Whips.  Panacur
Roundworms require Piperazine

Safeguard for Tapes is for pups with tapes and has to be done three days in a row   repeated in two weeks   as all wormers have to be repeated once before pup goes home.

I do not  like Ivemec for pups..unless have a rash

Ivemec is dangerous.

Has to be used by correct dosage. foe anything

4 mos old is young enough to start Ivemec 1%  for Heart worms..

No for fleas..too much of it can harm a dog..
Cows have a different percentage with another chemical in Ivemec..
for cattle
Not for use in dogs.

lmd

1% sterile solution for cattle and swine can be used on dogs.It doesn't work against tapeworms though...I think Strongid T does work on all worms.I am looking at getting some panacure as that has worked for my dogs before. Going to ask my friend that is a vet out here what is the best.

strongid is good for routine deworming only it get rounds and some hooks thats it , If you have one diagnosed with hooks get panacur and quick! Panacur will not treat the type of tapes they get from fleas though you need droncit for that You can easily control internal parasites except tapes in large populations with monthly ivomec essentially purge the population permenantly  of any rounds or hooks  but it does nothing for fleas, I like the selmection for puppies which is any ivermectin derivitive that kills fleas I'm not sure how they did that

Lief,
I LOVE THE PUPPY!!  THANKS. 


Everyone,
Thank you all for your help.  I think there are a few people that recommended what I currently do so that is fantastic.  I need to go have a sit down with my vet about the price of his meds :-) 

Again, thank you for all of the assistance with this!!!!!

Hi Windy Thanks  Vets  they have to mark stuff up ,most breeders use revival animal heatlh you can get most stuff you need from them www.revivalanimal.com/

Please DO NOT USE Ivomec ON PUPS!!!!!!!!
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com

Lief-There are tapes that dogs get from eating bunnies and other little critters or their feces.That is what I am looking at getting rid of.(don't know if they have it but I worm them for it all every 6 months as we have lived in areas with critters,plus they killed a squirrel)  I give them Ivomectin monthly for heart worm preventitive but that doesn't get rid of the tape worms. It seems to help for ticks and fleas though from what I noticed when I was living in Kentucky.(there were so many ticks there)
And I agree with Prager...Ivomectin for pups isn't good.They need a mild wormer.

That I know of ivomec is not contradicted in puppies its commonplace to start puppies on Ivomec at 6-8 weeks even at a dose of 1/10 per ten lbs its a low volume easily absorbed drug with a very  wide margin of safety, aside from heartworm , ear mites and worm prevention its routinly used in puppies to treat sarcoptic mange.I start all my puppies on some ivermection or derivitive, selemectin or moxidection by 6-8 weeks of age

Lief dosage of 1/10 OF WHAT??!!  Please do not give such an advice here.
In dogs, symptoms of acute toxicity may occur in some dogs at single dosages of 2 mg/kg or less. That is 2/1000 000 (two milionth of a kilogram of Ivermectin per kilogram of weight.) !

Ivermectin is easy to overdose and in pups it is very easy to do. Pups under 6 weeks should not take Ivermectin at all. Ivermectin is a prescription drug and can only be obtained from a veterinarian or by prescription from a veterinarian for a reason. It should never be administered without first consulting your veterinarian. The dose for ivermectin varies from species to species and also depends on the intent of treatment. If overdosed or used too early,  then it  may cause neurological problems(!!!) in pups and some breeds even as adults (like collies ) may die. Symptoms are  dialated pupils and drunken gait, blindness,  which can progress to respiratory paralysis and death. Symptoms occur in 12 hr.  Lactating bitches will pass the drug on pups via milk. Just be careful. 
    Ivermectin for older dogs is fine. I, again,  would not use it without vet's supervision,...unless you really know what you are doing. It is effective against most common intestinal worms (except tapeworms), most mites, and some lice. Acording to some It is not effective against fleas, ticks, flies, flukes. According to some it is.
Adverse effects in extremely low doses are not of concern in heart worm med even for collies. Ivermectin dose for heart worm prevention is 50X smaller then as a prevention for other parasites.
35% Collies, Shetland sheepdogs, Australian shepherds, and Old English sheepdogs  and partial mixes and even some other dogs may be susceptible. It is recommended to run low dose test by vet. Also before use of any form of Ivermectin for what ever reason you need to perform first the microfilaria test. This test tells you if the dog is infected with heart worm. If you use Ivermectin and the dog is infected then it will kill the heart worm and dog probably will get stroke.  
 If using against mites and such , do not use in combination with Valium or Amitraz (Mitaban) dips or collars. Or the dog may die.
Do not use with Comfortis which is used to treat fleas!

Basic Strongid   (Pet Smart) is less dangerous and fine for pups and has wide range of safety. Pups after dewormed by strongid may need to be redone. That does not mean that Strongid does not work!!!!!. Pups are getting re infested easily even if dewormed. Pups get born with roundworms. If you suspect any other worm then get it confirmed by vet by checking a stool sample. Keep in mind that any dewormer is a poison and best it is used in the minimal effective dose!
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com