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Red Sable

by Red Sable on 25 March 2010 - 18:03

Well, they have a little bit, but are  not a high source.   Carrots have beta carotene, which the body converts to Vitamin A.  Very important in a humans diet, not sure about a dogs though.

by TessJ10 on 25 March 2010 - 18:03

You're right - I was just about to edit my post to say "have very little to do with" Vitamin C.

by hodie on 25 March 2010 - 18:03

Actually, carrots are high in Vitamin C, as well as A, of course. But there are better foods for Vitamin C in humans, like citrus fruits.

by TessJ10 on 25 March 2010 - 18:03

Raw carrots also have very tough cellular walls.  Because of this, they are one of the few vegetables that are more nutritious slightly cooked than raw.  Eaten raw only something like 25% of Vitamin A is useful.  (Technically, it's not Vitamin A, but beta carotene which the body converts into Vitamin A).

by hodie on 25 March 2010 - 18:03

You are correct Tess about the tough cellular walls. And in comparison with the amount of Vit. A, in the 3000 mg range per 122 ounces of carrots, I think the amount is 230-30 mg for Vit. C. The carrot is not the best source of vitamin C or K. You are correct that they are one of the few more nutritious when cooked, just because of the cell wall.

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 25 March 2010 - 19:03

Hey,
In the first place I am not worried about Vitamin C deficiency in my dogs, besides they love chewing carrot sticks and it's a lot less concern than those crappy raw hide sticks, messy and full of chemicals.
If your feeding right you shouldn't have any worries about deficiencies of any kind.
And I'll take anything in natural form over a man made supplement any day of the week.
Too much does more harm than good, in my opinion.

I don't even take C pills, oranges and juice work better and have more benefits in general, including the enjoyment of flavor.
Fresh is the key,  fresh meat, fresh veggies, and home grown rules, including buying meat from local sources instead of chain stores or Wallyworld.  
Wallyworld will kill you for the bottom line, (beef products, may come from China, Mexico, or Canada, but we won't tell you which one on the label).

Sorry,
starting to rant.
I just don't like Wal-mart.



Moons.

WillowValleyGSD

by WillowValleyGSD on 25 March 2010 - 20:03

Vit. C is a water soluble Vit, therefore, if too much is given, the remained not used is flushed from the body. Many websites discourage the use of Vit. C with Canines stating that it is "synthesized in the liver of healthy dogs". I, personally, do supplement. As with anything else, it's an individual preference. Here is just one of the many articles floating around on the web with information. It discusses other Vitamins as well. Hope it helps . You will likely get many different answers in regard to dosage, I wish you luck.
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+1662&aid=712
 


by hodie on 25 March 2010 - 20:03

Whether one supplements or not is a personal choice and I don't care if one does it or not. But I would not do it because it is unnecessary in a health human or dog with an adequate diet. Excessive Vitamin C can cause health problems in both canines and humans. That is a fact.  Just because something is water soluble does not mean it cannot cause some sort of toxicity or damage to the body. 

But let's not mix up fact from fiction. Articles like peteducation where one does not even know the author or the background or they are trying to sell products are not my idea of a reliable reference. There are no citations to any sort of documentation. Further, if one looks hard, often you see the same information pasted from one single source statement to web site after web site. That does not make it science or truth. Without disciplined studies that are based on the scientific method, one just makes it all up. Anecdotal statements are just that. And someone making them might not even have anything to hang their hat on except to say that when I did X, Y happened, so it must be that X was responsible. I can say I just took a "yellow pill" and went out for a bike ride and fell off my bike. That does not mean that the "yellow pill" was responsible for that. There are newer studies that disprove ANY real benefit from supplementation. The U.S. is filled with people making a mint off of other people who buy supplements of all kinds, without any real benefit and many times, those supplements are in fact harmful. In humans and dogs, for example, there are a host of studies disproving any benefit to claims that the immune system is boosted. But people believe what they want to believe and that is fine.

by beetree on 25 March 2010 - 20:03

My dog self-supplements. He loves to lick the empty juice glass my son always leaves on the table. And my son only drinks the best, Tropicana Not-from-Concentrate, the one with no-pulp.

by hodie on 25 March 2010 - 20:03

 Very funny Beetree.....I would love to be able to drink OJ, but it upsets my stomach unless it is absolutely fresh......old age....crap....and I can't eat tomato sauce on pizza either for the same reason.





 


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