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by beetree on 02 March 2010 - 17:03
Someone should keep a video diary, as inspiration for other people with challenges to overcome.
by Mystere on 02 March 2010 - 18:03
Micheal, that is what I meant--her vocalizations only need to be understood by the dog. It doesn't matter if we, or the judge, does not understand them.
I took American Sign Language, very briefly, at one time. I have always been able to pick up languages and accents quite easily. But, ASL? God, that was so hard. It would not be too hard, though, for club members to work out some version of sign-language as a means to spot the girl, give cues/direction in a trial (at the judge's direction, of course), etc. This is all very do-able and it would not take a great deal of effort on anyone else's part.
Beetree is correct, this could be very inspiring for others .
Beetree, check out some of Jason Lake's videos--those are quite inspiring, too.
I took American Sign Language, very briefly, at one time. I have always been able to pick up languages and accents quite easily. But, ASL? God, that was so hard. It would not be too hard, though, for club members to work out some version of sign-language as a means to spot the girl, give cues/direction in a trial (at the judge's direction, of course), etc. This is all very do-able and it would not take a great deal of effort on anyone else's part.
Beetree is correct, this could be very inspiring for others .
Beetree, check out some of Jason Lake's videos--those are quite inspiring, too.
by AKGeorgias mom on 02 March 2010 - 18:03
Bob-
I don't know where you're at, but each state has a council for the deaf and hard of hearing and a school for the deaf and hard of hearing. They may be resources for interpreters or connecting with people who have helped others who are deaf train dogs. The deaf community is very connected and probably would know about local people that could help out. Also, by the age of 12 this young lady probably has learned some ways to cope with some situations where people don't know sign language. Her family would be able to provide some insight on whether she can read lips, writes notes or uses some other augmentive communication.
Best of luck!
Opal
I don't know where you're at, but each state has a council for the deaf and hard of hearing and a school for the deaf and hard of hearing. They may be resources for interpreters or connecting with people who have helped others who are deaf train dogs. The deaf community is very connected and probably would know about local people that could help out. Also, by the age of 12 this young lady probably has learned some ways to cope with some situations where people don't know sign language. Her family would be able to provide some insight on whether she can read lips, writes notes or uses some other augmentive communication.
Best of luck!
Opal
by Adi Ibrahimbegovic on 02 March 2010 - 18:03
Bob, it should be no problem at all for the girl and her dog to compete. It states so right there in the rules and regulations, any handicapped person is allowed to compete as long as the judge is briefed on it before they step on the field.
They go even as far to state that the dog is allowed to heel on the right side, if the handler is handicapped or for some other reason it has to be done on the right.
I see no reason why not, in fact, I speculate that every USA judge will go way out of their way to accomodate a deaf girl and her dog to compete.
I think personnaly it would be way cool for the little girl and her dog to do it.
Also, as others mentioned there was a gentleman that was in a wheelchair, competing in Sch and provisions were made for him, I assume by his friends/club members, like somebody will stand next to him and throw the dumbbell for the dog to retrieve over the A frame etc...
I say go girl, would be fantastic and inspirational as hell for anybody.
They go even as far to state that the dog is allowed to heel on the right side, if the handler is handicapped or for some other reason it has to be done on the right.
I see no reason why not, in fact, I speculate that every USA judge will go way out of their way to accomodate a deaf girl and her dog to compete.
I think personnaly it would be way cool for the little girl and her dog to do it.
Also, as others mentioned there was a gentleman that was in a wheelchair, competing in Sch and provisions were made for him, I assume by his friends/club members, like somebody will stand next to him and throw the dumbbell for the dog to retrieve over the A frame etc...
I say go girl, would be fantastic and inspirational as hell for anybody.
by ShelleyR on 02 March 2010 - 18:03
There is a deaf gentleman training for Schutzhund sport here. We have a little trouble communicating with him if he isn't looking right at the trainer/helper, but he has no trouble communicating with his dog. He watches others' examples on the field, speaks commands. His commands don't sound exactly like ours, but close, and the dog understands them just fine.
I look forward to seeing the team compete. :-)
I don't suppose any of you on this board remember USA Vice President Vernon Crowder? He competed at the national level... completely blind.
No, not with his guide dog.
SS
I look forward to seeing the team compete. :-)
I don't suppose any of you on this board remember USA Vice President Vernon Crowder? He competed at the national level... completely blind.
No, not with his guide dog.
SS
by Mindhunt on 02 March 2010 - 19:03
I'm with Mystere, I took ASL a couple years ago and it was tough and I grew up in a multiligual home (7 diferent languages and no, I sort of remember my first, German, speak in English, and have forgotten most of the others). ASL deals with a different part of the brain along with the language part. My son who is dyslexic picked it up easily.
I know of a deaf person back home that had 6 dogs all trained on whistles and different tongue clicks, lip smacks, and such. She did herding with 2 of them and I wish I could remember her name.
I know of a deaf person back home that had 6 dogs all trained on whistles and different tongue clicks, lip smacks, and such. She did herding with 2 of them and I wish I could remember her name.
by Liesjers on 02 March 2010 - 19:03
I've seen a deaf person compete in rally. She was not mute so she did have some vocal commands which no one understood but the dog did and that's all that matters. He looked just like any other dog out there, in fact he was a pretty happy, jolly dog while competing.
by poseidon on 02 March 2010 - 19:03
Bob,
Forgive my naivety, if the young girl is not mute as well, she may try afew single syllable commands. I watched an interesting documentary long time ago, where a group of deaf people danced into the night to some funky music due to the frequency/ vibrations radiated through the floor. Just a thought.
Forgive my naivety, if the young girl is not mute as well, she may try afew single syllable commands. I watched an interesting documentary long time ago, where a group of deaf people danced into the night to some funky music due to the frequency/ vibrations radiated through the floor. Just a thought.
by LAVK-9 on 02 March 2010 - 20:03
Hey Bob I sent you a PM.Yes it could be done.Hell i have trained a deaf dog so for a deaf person to train a dog...MUCH easier!!!
~L~
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by RONNIERUNCO on 02 March 2010 - 20:03
BOB I DONT WANT TO EMBARRASS YOU AS YOUR HUMBLE NATURE IS WELL KNOWN. I WONDER HOWEVER IF THE OTHER MEMBERS ON THIS FORUM ARE AWARE OF YOUR GIFTS AND ABILITIES OF TELEPHATIC COMMUNICATION REGARDING CANINES? I HAVE SEEN THIS WITH MY OWN EYES. BOB AND DINKIE WERE TALKING AND GOSSIPING BEHIND MY BACK.
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