Canine Botulism - Dead Iguanas in Florida

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by LAVK-9 on 10 February 2010 - 04:02

1/2 c is MORE then plenty.12cc is good enough.Also you want to make sure that it is ok to make them vomit.Some things you don't want them to.There is a charcoal mix that is what we used for other things that were swallowed

by Slamdunc on 10 February 2010 - 04:02

I believe the dosage is 30 cc of Hydrogen Peroxide for a 70 lb dog to induce vomitting. But, a little more wouldn't hurt in an emergency. A bulb type syringe or small baster works well. hyrdogen Peroxide is your best bet for inducing vomitting.

As far as carbon goes there is a product called UAA gel. It is a pretty concentrated activated carbon product and you don;t need very much. It comes in a squeeze tube that you could get into the dog fairly easily and doesn't take a lot to work.

Jim

by LAVK-9 on 10 February 2010 - 04:02

Yea when working at the vet clinic it was so much fun trying to get some dogs to drink that carbon crap.The stuff we had was like Kaopectate but black and it stained!! I think I wore more then the dog got down it's throat!!!!

by starrchar on 10 February 2010 - 05:02

I figured if it was really that bad he would've vomited on his own. Of course, had I known about the Botulism I definitely would've tried to make him throw up and if I wasn't successful I would've taken him to the vet. According to everything I have read, the onset of the Botulism occurs within hours to 2 days after ingesting the Iguana, so my boy will be fine. I want to add that one time, years ago, my GSD ate some Advil (he would eat ANYTHING) and the vet told me to give him hydrogen peroxide to make him throw up. I gave him more than the recommended dosage because it wasn't working and he did not throw up anyway, but the peroxide burned the soft tissue in his mouth pretty bad.

by Shelbysmom on 22 February 2010 - 18:02

Hi All, My dog unfortunately was one of the dogs that had to be put down because of this...Needless to say I'm devastated!! My dog was a beautiful Great Dane only 13 months...I never even heard of this until that dreaded nite. and to make matters worse, it wasn't even in my backyard it was dead between my neighbors bushes and the back of my fence, my dog just dug a little until the dead iguana slid on our side...I am still in shock and missing my baby so......

by Two Moons on 22 February 2010 - 19:02

There was an interesting program about invasive species in Florida on PBS the other night.
It is a real problem that threatens many other species including several who are already endangered.

Especially the snakes and lizards who are reproducing at a staggering rate.

And this all began with the commercial pet trade and black market smuggling.

We haven't heard the end of it for sure.

Moons.

by hodie on 22 February 2010 - 19:02

Shelbysmom,

I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your dog. I never let my dogs out without being there, just because there is always the possibility of a dead rabbit or other rodent around here. And they will eat it in a heartbeat.

Moons, the whole story about invasive species and the black market is a sobering one. Most people don't care about the harm that is being done until it hits them in the face. The problem does not just involve animals of one kind or another, but also plant and other types of life forms.

by Two Moons on 22 February 2010 - 19:02

Yes,
Very true.

I hope these lessons drive home for all.

Moons.

by Carole on 25 February 2010 - 23:02

Our 9 month od Saint Bernard was affected with botulism from what we think was a dead iguanas. Our yard is fence but a new pool cleaning person left the gate open between us and our neighbors. He got out and came back smelling awful. We just brought him home on Monday from the Miami Animal Hospital. He is paralyzed but makes small improvemnts daily. He can now hold his head up all by himself and we are seeing some movemnt in his legs. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.

by hodie on 25 February 2010 - 23:02

Carole,

I am so sorry to hear this. If you can find a therapy pool that will allow you in with the dog, put a life jacket on him, get in the pool with him and work his legs in a normal motion slowly. If you cannot do it this way, then work his legs every day, multiple times. Ask your vet to refer you to a physical therapist who works with dogs or someone else who has experience doing motion exercises. Hopefully, he can be helped, but also be prepared for his not regaining movement. I will also do some literature searches to see if I can come up with other treatments that have helped humans or canines so affected.

Best wishes.

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