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by Bob McKown on 23 December 2009 - 17:12

Phil:

         My friend, I,m sure your right. I prefer Honey Nut Cheerios. I said nothing about just that I liked him and he was a wealth of knowledge thats all. 

by zdog on 23 December 2009 - 17:12

Personally I don't care if the man never enters an event in his life.  Some may think you can't be good at what you do if you aren't winning the trials.  I beg to differ.  I've only met the man a few times in my life and he is very genuine, fun to be around and you can learn a thing or two if you want to.  He isn't selling any secrets he doesn't claim to have a magic formula.

There certainly are people that have sat on the podium's in national and international competitions that will heaps a lot of thanks on Micheal Ellis.

He teaches good sound training principles, and does so in a way that is fun, and he does seem to connect with the people he is working with.  and like I said, there are people that train with him that have won some pretty big competitions who have given a lot of credit to Ellis for helping them reach that level.    Personally I don't care if somebody can buy a imprinted and trained dog and compete at an international level.  That tells me they're a great handler.  I'd rather have somebody teach me, that can teach me.

Mystere

by Mystere on 23 December 2009 - 17:12

 I agree with Pyscht and Christopher.  I have known Mike for several years and attended several of his formal seminars, as well as "just training."   He is, as Christopher states, an excellent teacher.  He is never diminishing to handlers (even those who might deserve it) and is unfailingly helpful and encouraging to "even the least among us."   There is no arrogance, or superiority about the man.  He simply loves training dogs and brining out the best in both the dogs and the handlers.   While he is completely truthful about what he sees in a given dog, he also has the ability to give a person an honest assessment of their dog, without being insulting or hurtful.  (Whether the person pays attention is another matter .) 

His breeding program pretty much speaks for itsself, if you review the results of the 2008 AWMA National Championship. 

by Vikram on 23 December 2009 - 17:12

 His dog in the Video has fantastic control. ANd he looked like very well kept and trained. 

cheers


snajper69

by snajper69 on 23 December 2009 - 18:12

I don't care if the guy wins every single national/world competition out there. It will still not make him good trainer. What I noticed that the trainers that are less competitive usually are very in tune to the dogs, and their goal is to make the dog the best he can, while the top level competitors/trainers usually have way too much ego, and are more in tune to making them self look good rather than the dog. So I would not judge a trainer based on how many competition he won, but rather how well can he apply/teach his methods to others. Trainers are about people/dogs not wins. Competitors are about wins and trails.

by Held on 23 December 2009 - 18:12

Mlchael Ellis is very good at what he does, and he is a very good teacher.As for as what and where he has competed i do not really give a shit about that.That is his buisness,but does he know how to train a dog and train others to do the same you dam right.Is he reinventing the wheel no ,no one can.Most of the philosphy and techniques are same what Gottfried Deldie was teaching long time ago.But Michael has simplified and presented in a newe

I think Michael is great and anyone who is smart enough to learn and specially new at this would gain so much.

If you can learn to put the foundation in your dog like Michael teaches you then you will know a thing or two about training dogs.

All you rookies get a Michael vedios and learn and you will be glad you did.Have a nice one.

Phil Behun

by Phil Behun on 23 December 2009 - 18:12

If you want to learn about Michael's teaching methods, get a hold of Ivan, it's his foundation.  Unless of course you believe that loading dog food shelves at Petco makes you an experienced trainer.  Spell check people, spell check.  I fully understand that readers from countries other than the selfish US of A will have some difficulty with our language and I truly respect their knowledge of our dialect.  Lord knows, I have little to no knowledge of their's.  But, I digress.

northern GSDs

by northern GSDs on 23 December 2009 - 18:12

I had the pleasure of attending an Ellis seminar in Alberta and I was incredibly pleased. Not only is Michael very talented at what he does, he works exceptionally well with both dogs and handlers. He offered excellent insight and very productive training exercises that I've found to be been very helpful to use in my SchH training. I would attend another of his seminars in a heartbeat, just as I would attend seminars held by others whom I respect as I have done.

Nicole

 


by Held on 23 December 2009 - 18:12

Where did Ivan get his foundation from.Ivan is ok.I like othere trainers better.Michael is a much better trainer at least you can understand him. Have a nice one.

by zdog on 23 December 2009 - 22:12

I actually learned "their method" from a book before I ever knew or met an Ivan or Ellis, but I have to say I like them both, and both have taken concepts I learned a while ago and simplified or made them applicable to the specific exercises in some cases.  They've both given me a different take on some ways I used to look at things and I still don't train exactly like either one.







 


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