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by shepherdpal on 20 December 2009 - 18:12
Great post! I wish I had read it sooner. It should be a "sticky"on the board like they have on other boards
by Mystere on 20 December 2009 - 19:12
That's why we keep bumping it to keep it on the first page. LOTS of "iffy" breeders seem to have litters on the ground, or due the next couple of months. So, maybe this thread will help someone avoid some of the pitfalls (and crappy breeders).
by luvdemdogs on 20 December 2009 - 20:12
...and hopefully the newbies interested in buying a puppy can weed out the facts they need to make an informed decision from the politic of the board, LOL!
by VonIsengard on 20 December 2009 - 21:12
Run as fast you can from any breeder who uses the phrase "Christmas puppipes"!
bump!-
bump!-
by animules on 20 December 2009 - 22:12
And from the ones that are "making room"
by mking on 21 December 2009 - 03:12
Definitely a great post. I just recently saw an ad for puppies from someone who frequents this board (alot), the ad states "Christmas Special" only $xxxx each. I find that a little disturbing, and kind of falls into the category of "making room". A "Christmas Special" sounds like a supermarket ad, not something a reputable breeder would post, really kind of nauseating.
by Mystere on 21 December 2009 - 05:12
The shelters are FULL of "Christmas Puppies" every year! This appeals to impulse buying at its worst. I am not saying that there may not be a great litter bred by an ethical and conscientious breeder hitting the ground coincidentally around Christmas. However, many, if not most, of the good breeders I know try to avoid "Christmas puppies," because, let's face it, most pups are headed for pet homes. Pet homes are probably exactly where you don't want pups you've bred headed during the holidays. ¶ I'd be very wary of any special Christmas sales; that sounds too much like someone treating the pups as commodities, like Christmas socks, robes and those gift-boxed perfume sets. :-)
JMHO
by Mystere on 21 December 2009 - 12:12
BUMP
by Mystere on 22 December 2009 - 17:12
Time to bump to the first page again.
Link to the discussion and tips:
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/287296.html
Link to the discussion and tips:
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/287296.html
by Sunsilver on 22 December 2009 - 20:12
There's one or two things I didn't spot on that thread ( okay, may have missed them!) that I think are really important:
If the seller can't give you AKC papers (or the equivalent for your country) at the time of sale (as well as showing you all the paperwork on the sire and dam re. health clearances, ownership, pedigree, etc.)...RUN! I have heard of SO many purchasers who have been screwed over this!
In my case, I had to wait 9 months for the papers, as first the father's registration had to be straightened out. (He was a new import, not yet AKC registered.) This was not a case of the breeder trying to screw me, but it was damn frustrating.
If you REALLY desperately want the puppy, put a REFUNDABLE deposit down, and tell the seller you'll give the rest of the money once he's got the papers.
I also would not buy from any breeder who would not let me see the rest of the litter, and the parents (if both are on site.)
If the papers are for something like the National Pet Registry (very popular here in the Great White North!) ......RUN!! This is not a recognized, reputable registry.
And, of course, if the breeder is evasive or rude and does not seem to want to answer your questions, this is a huge warning flag. They MAY just be terribly busy or having a bad day, but I would procede with caution.
In Star's case, I must have asked the breeder nearly every imaginable question, and he promptly and politely answered every single one. That's the sort of communication which gives you confidence in the breeder. And, if I were the breeder, it would go both ways. If the person cared enough about the pup to ask those questions, I would know they'd likely be a good, informed, caring owner.
If the seller can't give you AKC papers (or the equivalent for your country) at the time of sale (as well as showing you all the paperwork on the sire and dam re. health clearances, ownership, pedigree, etc.)...RUN! I have heard of SO many purchasers who have been screwed over this!
In my case, I had to wait 9 months for the papers, as first the father's registration had to be straightened out. (He was a new import, not yet AKC registered.) This was not a case of the breeder trying to screw me, but it was damn frustrating.
If you REALLY desperately want the puppy, put a REFUNDABLE deposit down, and tell the seller you'll give the rest of the money once he's got the papers.
I also would not buy from any breeder who would not let me see the rest of the litter, and the parents (if both are on site.)
If the papers are for something like the National Pet Registry (very popular here in the Great White North!) ......RUN!! This is not a recognized, reputable registry.
And, of course, if the breeder is evasive or rude and does not seem to want to answer your questions, this is a huge warning flag. They MAY just be terribly busy or having a bad day, but I would procede with caution.
In Star's case, I must have asked the breeder nearly every imaginable question, and he promptly and politely answered every single one. That's the sort of communication which gives you confidence in the breeder. And, if I were the breeder, it would go both ways. If the person cared enough about the pup to ask those questions, I would know they'd likely be a good, informed, caring owner.
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