Schutzhund and only schutzhund? - Page 7

Of course breeders in denmark, or elsewhere, are not intressted in a dog that is too mediocre to pass a SCH-trial with decent scores, but far from all dogs used are dogs that are placing top 3 in big SCH-competitions. Do you think many breeders in france or holland are intressted in using a ring/KNPVdog that also is too mediocre to get decent points in their sports? Dogs used in denmark have of course proven that they could work outside SCH, why else do you find dogs working in police that comes from danish dogs or dogs used there? A dog doing french ring is just the same, they have not proven anything more than they work in french ring, so in that sense they are not different. 

johan77

no dogs in denmark have not proved that they could work in other things that schh not the danish police dogs ever they cant bite many of them ,many of the schh lines cant bite.
the danish police dogs can use there nose but they cant bite as well as many of the other scandinavien police dogs and many of the Uk police dogs are weak biters to

mals can bite they love to use their mouths alredy  as young pups


now a high score in schh says nothing about if its a good working dog , bad scores though can very much indeed be a good dog I have seen severel dogs fail the bite work or disqualify very nice dogs sorry they where not used in breeding though
in RING good scores makes a good dog not like in schh

you can compare RING/KNPV to schh because its very different programs good scores in KNPV or RING are good dogs you cant make a good KNPV or RING dog

but good SCHH point dogs are made every day by good handlers not good dogs

I meant you Cant compare the sports

that is not true

a KNPV or RING titles test many of the working traits especially the biting and ability to hold drive for long time , and take hard corrections without loosing drive it has to withstand the harsh ways thay are trained in Holland and France,Belgium


I have put this video this is not an all schh litter with only schh titled  , I can not find the pedigree on this litter but that certainly does not look like a normal gsd schh litter and its not just watch the way thay are biting already , that is how the mals normally look like not the gsd and I am quite sure this is not a normal schh litter because they are to weak in their drive to act like this



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saVrCCLDLI0 

Lol!

I think that is great that you understood that! I watched the video, too.

Myret, it´s very strange that many of the SCH-lines can´t bite as you said, how could there be SCH-lines when biting is a part of SCH;)

It´s clear you don´t know much about this, of course there are SCH-dogs that produce police or other workingdogs both in europe or US. There was a topis recently on the german sheperd part of this site that disscused dogs that was proven outside sport, one policedog in US was mentioned for his good qualities, and guess what, he comes from a swedish kennel with a bitch from denmark, well known SCH-lines in that dog. I could give you many more examples but it´s just plain silly to even argue such an obvious thing, that scandinavian GSDs from the same lines they use in gemany or US can´t bite when placed on scandinavian ground.

But please tell me why the best scoring french ring GSD in the last championsip in  french ring is more proven and more suited for policework than a well known danish SCH-dog like satoris gator for example

Please don't tell these police dogs they come from "schutzhund lines", or else they may not work as well.  And heaven only knows what would happen if you told them they also have schutzhund titles

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=453928

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=626220

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=469183

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=498359

myret,

I bet you can find video's of highline puppies biting
like that too.
I didn't see anything in the video that I have not
seen in a typical working line GSD litter.
Am I missing something?

Most "ring" lines go back to typical Schutzhund dogs, AND
some WG highlines too!!!!