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by joanro on 29 March 2016 - 00:03

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3513095/Justice-Department-cracks-iPhone-withdraws-legal-action.html

 

The f b i had the owners of the phone change the password, so they had it the whole time. Probly nothing on the phone so that's why it wasn't destroyed. Good opportunity for gov to force apple to create software to bypass self destruct feature.


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 29 March 2016 - 07:03

Frankly, given this story involves: a 'county issued phone'
(which I assume means it was Farook's 'work' phone), the
feebs, the Daily Mail, and Apple, I wouldn't believe any
word of it.
'Sides which, aren't we already onto iPhone 6, now, which
would lead me to conclude any legislative move regarding
the 5 would be o. o. d. already ...

by joanro on 29 March 2016 - 16:03

No, it would not be 'out of date', because what the feds were demanding was for apple to create software to bypass the 'self destruct' feature on the phone when more than ten attempts at pass word are used.
Feds trying to 'force' inventors to invent something that doesn't already exist is the meat of the issue which was prompting the 'brains' of the company to threaten a walk out rather than to have their minds to become 'tools' of the government...you know, the way hit ler tried to 'force' scientists to do his bidding.

The owners of the phone in question were the employers of the murderer. They put the original password in. The fact that the phone in question was not destroyed but the personal phones were destroyed, leaves one to assume nothing of value to the feds was in the phone.

The feds had the owners of the phone change the password AFTER the feds examined it. They ( the feds) claim they 'forgot' the password ( very convenient ) so made an attempt to glean SOMpthin out of being in possession of the murderer's phone by coming up with a ploy to get the 'selfdestruct' feature bypassed for future cases.
That's my take.
You don't believe anything...so what do you believe is the truth?


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 29 March 2016 - 18:03

Depends on how the application for the court case was worded,
I suppose.

by joanro on 29 March 2016 - 18:03

The court case is moot, at this point. Fact is, feds were demanding apple create software that do not exist. Period. Whole time, the feds already has access to the phone. More than likely, the third party mentioned who supposedly 'unlocked' the phone ( which wasn't an issue, ever) was the employer using the password the employer had put in at the beginning of the case. All a bunch of baloney.


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 29 March 2016 - 18:03

Wasn't that what I said ?

by joanro on 29 March 2016 - 18:03

Not that I could see.

ggturner

by ggturner on 03 April 2016 - 12:04

If they had the password, then why are they now going to help law enforcement with another iPhone? Must have some way of unlocking them.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-pledges-to-assist-local-police-in-unlocking-iphones/

 


by joanro on 03 April 2016 - 13:04

Unlocking is not what was needed with the SB phone. They needed to bypass/disable the self destruct feature and that would require the creation of software not yet in existance. The password was changed by owner of the phone at request of fbi. So the password was not a mystery.


by beetree on 03 April 2016 - 14:04

@Joan. After ten failed password attempts to unlock the screen the option to have the phones' info wiped into the default state was the worry.

The email passwords,and/ or the Apple ID is different than the phone screen locking password, and are not protecting the same thing.

The FBI used a hacker to defeat the screen lock. The issuing company probably changed the Apple ID, using the Iforgot my Apple ID option, which made getting at the old email Farouk had used, impossible without his email passwords and that is why they needed the hack.

At least that is what I think happened!





 


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