the problem with america today - Page 6

When Trump wins? It will be business as usual. He isn't going to govern. He doesn't want to govern. Look at his VP pick. Look at the establishment GOP members who have endorsed him. Suddenly they all agree with him? They know they will be running things while Trump goes out and "makes America great again."


And I'm not saying "they did it too" to make excuses for Hillary. I'm saying to those who attack her why they turn a blind eye to those of their party who did worse. Far worse. They don't have a problem with WHAT Hillary may have done but with WHO did it. When it's their guy it's not an issue.

The fact that those who support Trump hate Obama yet applauded the words of Michelle when spoken by Trump's wife is one example of the hypocrisy. These people believe Obama wants to be king and will lead some takeover of the government yet they support Trump who is an authoritarian. So they don't have a problem with a king or dictator as long as it's their guy on the throne. They scream about Obama stepping all over the Constitution when they support someone who is going to do just that. They claim Obama wants a federal police force yet listen to Trump's speech where he very fascist-like repeatedly mentioned law and order.

The real question is why is it when someone says "so did they" why there isn't condemnation of what they did? In other words, my issue isn't with justifying what any politician may or may not have done; my issue is why don't people admit that those who came before were just as bad if not worse. Why is it now that people have a problem with what politicians do and not before? Under Reagan's watch we had Iran-Contra. We had drug dealers being allowed to flood US streets with crack. Yes, it has been established that the CIA allowed this to happen. The Reagan White House acknowledged this though they minimized how bad it was. All of those American lives that were destroyed because of that are worth less than those Hillary supposedly is responsible for?

So it isn't a condemnation of what Hillary did or didn't do but a condemnation of Hillary. People who don't like Hillary don't like what she did. People who like Reagan would let him kick their dogs and thank him after.

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@ Noitsyou.

"People who don't like Hillary don't like what she did"  (or will do) - I have been seeing that ever since this thred was first posted ...

And what is different about that... coming from the other side ?

Absolutely nothing.

Why do people support a lying chameleon with non-existent integrity, who pretends to have good ideas of little substance and then rallies for the little people only when it will be a bankroll or legacy for their private ego or bank account?

Both candidates are pathetic as to be a best choice for President. Isn't it the system that landed these choices, that has been buffaloed? The fact is there are enough people out there, that want either one of these choices, and they made it happen.

It has to be due to this Information Age. That is a power that is not perfected as confined or controlled because we all have it in the palm of our hands.

People are dullards who prefer to defer moral authority to someone else. That's why it was funny to hear Cruz say to vote your conscience. On one level it was incredibly poignant given the climate of the nomination process but on another it was absurd as the last thing most of those present wanted to do was actually think. I doubt many of them know how to effectively reason.

You see it on this forum and others: people don't know the difference between opinion and fact. They don't understand logic. They believe anything written, be it on the internet or in print, is true because it was written. They therefore don't bother to fact-check, assuming they even understand the concept. News outlets have no legal obligation to tell the truth, now imagine some blogger in his mother's basement. These aren't people who were educated recently but from a time when supposedly critical thinking was important. They didn't have to bother with all that "liberal" nonsense like feelings. Look at the average age of a FOX News viewer. We can forgive young people for not being good at discerning fact from opinion but what is the excuse for someone over the age of 30 or 50 or even 70?

With that said we have a choice: Trump or Clinton. Technically we can not make a choice or go third party but Trump or Clinton is the choice for most of us. It's easy to choose no one but that ignores the fact that one of them will win and whoever it is will have an affect on the nation. Given that, I have to choose Hillary because I don't want conservative SC Justices like Scalia who live in a romanticized 1950s world. I don't want women to have their rights restricted. I don't want to see poor people lose benefits (while corporate welfare is untouched). The policies of both parties, especially the GOP, have helped to create a permanent underclass and sorry, they are responsible for caring for it since they don't care to change it. I don't want another phony tough guy as president. Trump talks about strength. He isn't strong, he postures. He's a big baby who threatens to sue anyone who hurts his feelings. He eats pizza with a knife and fork. People see strong and I see insecure. In fact, he appeals to the insecure.

I don't want to see a wall built (it isn't happening anyway). And I don't like the xenophobic rhetoric that appeals to the lowest common denominator. I see someone who will be a pitchman for the policies and platform of the RNC.

Hillary may be a liar and corrupt (Trump is also). She may be self-serving (as if Trump isn't). However, we won't have a Supreme Court made up of dinosaurs. Women's rights will be safe. The poor won't suffer more than they already do. There will be healthcare for everyone. And hopefully, if she has learned from Sanders, education will get more priority than it has.

People who repeat the slogan "let's make America great again" really don't know how great we are (not were). America is greater than it's ever been before.

The Supreme Judge appointments are very concerning. Blah, blah to the rest.

The illusion of healthcare for everyone is tied up with Insurance coverage. For everone! Such an elegant con!

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/trump-vs-hillary-nationalism-vs-globalism-2016-16041

Voting for Trump is voting for Nationalism.  Voting for Hillary is voting for the Globalists.  I can't stress that enough.  However, since our votes don't count any as the system is rigged, Trump is very VERY unlikely to get in, unless God who is in charge commands it.

Otherwise there will be great choas, enough for Obama to cancel the elections and serve another term, or Killary will win.

So relax everyone.

 

I'll finish with some interesting quotes from more globalists.

. “World population needs to be decreased by 50%”. Dr. Henry Kissinger

“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order”. David Rockefeller

“War and famine would not do. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved. AIDS is not an efficient killer because it is too slow. My favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world’s population is airborne Ebola (Ebola Reston), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years. “We’ve got airborne diseases with 90 percent mortality in humans. Killing humans. Think about that. “You know, the bird flu’s good, too. For everyone who survives, he will have to bury nine”. Dr. Eric Pianka University of Texas evolutionary ecologist and lizard expert, showed solutions for reducing the world’s population to an audience on population control

“No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation”. David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

Trump isn't a nationalist he is a racist. Trump doesn't care about this nation, he only worries about himself. He doesn't even want the job just the title. You want a fascist to run a country you don't in live in, SMH. And finally you have been talking about this NWO and frankly that all it is, talk and conspiracy. Your homework for today is research Hitler and how he came to power and report what you find.

Red has just become a groupie mouthpiece for DWM (dead white men), Admin. I get far more worried by Beetree's attitude; since when has it ever been possible to trust ANY politician to 100 % ?  Since when has any public financing initiative NOT had an element that suits the insurance magnates ?  Gimme a break !  Noitsyou, it is a real shame your eloquence is 'pearls before swine' but I am afraid the blowhards are just knocking back your fresh air ... 

I would call such eloquence a good whitewashing of Hillary, and predictable as Democraric party rhetoric and therefore: blah.

Lol at the swine and pearls and blowhards! I got one to share too, about putting lipstick on the pig. Do use a mirror when applying.

Now then, look who is making all the excuses!

Noitsyou, I hope you know I have nothing personal going against you because of any differing views written or discussed here. I just don't have a crush on you as is apparent by some of the others. 😜