Views of differences in Guarding - Page 1

Some dogs seriously guard their territory and will not let you enter. Other dogs may guard a single prey object, but not guard a territory.

What are the drive/s involved in the different types of guarding, and why a dog doing one type of guarding will not necessarily do the other?

Well reasoned viewpoints are welcomed. Strong preference for views not coming from down under.

dogs that guard a single prey object like in KNPV and ring are trained behaviour, they will only guard the object they are trained to guard, suitcase, bycicle etc.

guarding territory is genetic and cannot be trained, dont mind how many videos of a guy in bitesuit entering a room or garden there are on youtube 

so Duke what are the drives involved?

I thought the guarding of the single prey object is based on possession drive which interacts with figh drive?

"Down under" tends to have a lot of good ideas - too bad, you are not interested.
Slowly but surely you should start to open your mind.

Susie
I did not want to mention a specific user name

Ok, if you bring possesiveness in the game its genetic, but that is typical on not willing to give up a retrieved object, not to be confused with guarding an object in a sport , where a dog is trained to stay on the object, bite a prey, out and return on object.

IMO guarding a property has to do with invading a dogs safe space, so defence drive

not saying a dog on a property cannot have prey but will never be prey mainly/only, same goes for the guarding an object

 

here is a dog I trained for a client guarding the object being a person, no preydrive here 

https://youtu.be/JFYE4u1Iej4

High prey dogs can be the most guardy dogs.

 

 

No preference for   member  that shalt not be named who lives in a NY apartment and spends a lot of time playing with a robotic dog play toy and has a female that has rarely been seen off the sofa.

can be VK but preydrive doesnot make them guard, so they are balanced dogs with both prey and defence

You didn´t need to...

Your question, although sounding "easy", is a difficult one.

"Some dogs seriously guard their territory and will not let you enter. Other dogs may guard a single prey object, but not guard a territory."

Are you talking about "raw" dogs or are you talking about trained dogs?
Are you talking about "strong dogs" or are you talking about "weak" dogs?

Duke is right, territorial behavior is genetic, a "territorial" dog will try to defend it´s property, trained or not.
A "strong" dog better than a "weak" dog, though -
this behavior is based on 10.000s of years old genetics - the "territory" of the pack - no territory = no survival ( food, sexuality, freedom to raise the next generation ).

But this behavior doesn´t say much about the strength of a single dog - even the weakest dog may try to defend its territory ( in a "pack" this dog would be in second line, but on its own it has to try its best ...)
Those dogs are the "territorial" dogs you are able to chase away...

Dogs "defending a single prey object" most often are trained dogs, and this doesn´t say much about their genetics ( the training is no fun in some cases - for those dogs it´s better to "defend" than to go...),

but in case we are talking about totally untrained dogs ( like 2 dogs "fighting" for a stick ) this behavior is based on prey drive = originally food drive = survival of the individuum, transferred to a "toy".

Whatever a dog tends to do, is based on instincts ( instincts are necessary for survival ), genetically manifested for 1000s of years.
Because of (wo)men made breeding decisions for or against particular genetically instincts ( based on human preferences ) a lot of breeds lost their original instincts, they don´t need them any more, any drives not suitable for humans are suppressed by human selection, whereas wanted drives are supported.

"Territorial behavior" is one of the gentic traits most "modern" humans don´t want to see in a dog any more ( neighbours, friends, community ); because of that a "Golden" will show you the hiding-place of the family silver instead of "protecting" it ( in reality not protecting the silver, but protecting the house = the territory ).

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