SCP Sieger Show - Is it for real? - Page 1

Off late we have seen new articles propagating the Schaferhund Club of Pakistan (SCP) Sieger Show. I want to know that how can a Club, which is not affiliated with the SV and is predominatly based in one City of Pakistan, hold a Sieger Show. Can a Show held by such a localised club be truly called a Sieger Show which traditionally has a countrywide representation. How can SCP hold a Sieger Show if it cannot get a single dog from Karachi, which is the biggest city of Pakistan. Please remember that Karachi recently held a Sieger Show organised by the GSDCP (German Shepherd Dog Club of Pakistan) in which there was representation from 4 major cities of the country. Hence, the implementation of a true and representative national Sieger Show. This Sieger Show of GSDCP was judged by Herr Klaus Gothe an SV approved judge who had judged the Junior Male Class (12 to 18 months) in the 2003 Sieger Show in Ulm Germany. This fact in it self reflects the truly representative and recognised existence of the GSDCP. So lets call a spade a spade and let this show be remembered as another one of those which contributes neither to the breed nor to the sport except maybe serving its purpose of massaging a few frivilous egos.

yeah this is hundred percent true there is a sieger show held on 20 march . How can you say the show of Karachi is the sieger show only four dogs in the ring in the open class only one of them is the ranking male in germany sg 54 . Only twenty dogs How can you say him a sirger show. In SCP i expect above sixty to eighty dog top ranking dogs in the open class male i think above ten and in the open class female i think above fifteen in the ring. After seeing this show you should have to say a SIEGER SHOW. ok bye

The point remains that all these dogs will be from Lahore or from cities in its vacinity. Hence, true countrywide representation is taking place. The SCP is not recognised by the WUSV which iconsiders it a "Dissident Club". The FCI also does not provide recognition to SCP. Additionally, most of the dogs being quoted by you as the top dogs participating in the Show (appearing in the New Articles section) are the ones who have been shown in the GSDCP Shows by GSDCP memebers. Now that these dogs have passed their prime they are being shown in the SCP Shows.

Showing 15 dogs inthe open class whose pedigrees are questionable or suspect is not a big deal.

yes trident u r right the scp not recognised by any organisation in world shan said about karachi seiger show is he know for the seiger show first thing s judge oppointed by sv n their shows judged by home made judges [most of them]their i give the prove for it in 2001 seiger show held by gsdcp in lahore n judge was owner of noricum kennel junior male class judge disqaulify the dog [huppy v arlett son ]n that dog sold to scp n their he grade sg n his litter sis shown lot of time n she was also graded top [she is bessy the same type n qaulity of his brother buffy]this s one example but scp n nkc full of these jokes in their all breeds shows so many dogs graded excellent with level n under short bites spcially in rotty n gsd now go for their managing body 1] president of scp n nkc mr nadeem butt he has experience of 4 or 5 years his knowledge on dogs s zero everybody know this he only get the seat by his financial asistance to their club he spend money for shows n for dogs n they compere that fellow with imran hussain who worked for gsd since last40 years with lot of experiance,full command on gsd ,top breeder of our country n ingermany also u compere mr butt with imran hussain this s total bull shit. if u [nkc+scp]tell me why founder of nkc form this club ?i tell u they claim there s no system in kcp for this reason they form the club now tell me where s ur system now all officials oppoint by mr butt then aim of this club s not complete till this time n why the starter members of ur club come back to kcp [most of them]?ther s lots of questions u can never give the answers if u r satisfied now shan then its ok if u need more then ask some thing good for scp n nkc