very aggresive malinios - Page 3

hardred  there is one simple answer to your problem and that is obedience, and with that I dont mean puppyclass style obedience, but getting an understanding with your dog where you reach a point where you say No and the dog will understand it is NO , I have my thoughts about the reason of agression of your dog, but no matter what the reason behind it is , find yourself a good trainer that can help you getting a good relationship with your dog and put some good on obedience on the dog

I'm far from convinced this is a "very aggressive Mailnois". Sounds more like a high prey drive, high energy
working dog that needs an outlet for her energy. Most Mailinois are NOT pet dogs. They need something to do.
Which is why I suggest Mondio Ring. If the OP is in the PI then there are several Mondio ring clubs there.
If she doesn't have the time or inclination to do something with her dog? Then she should rehome it with someone who does

Thomas Barriano
Dubheasa Germania (11/05/99-08/11/08) SchH III M R Brevet AKC WD III AWD 1 STP 1 CD WAC TT
Ascomannis Jago (06/20/03) SchH III AKC WD III AWD I TT WAC
Belatucadrus (08/14/05) DS BH TT MR I
Flannchadh von der Bavarianburg (5/21/08) BH STP I

 

so thomas basically you are suggesting somebody to skip preschool and highschool and go directly to university

What I'm suggesting is to recognize what the dog/breed is and go to people familiar with the breed
AND give her an outlet for her drive. A Mondio Ring club isn't going to send the dog on a face or flee attack the 1st time she shows up . They are likely going to work on basic obedience. Which is what the dog and owner needs NOT a muzzle that is an arificial stop gap "cure" for an obedience problem

Thomas Barriano
Dubheasa Germania (11/05/99-08/11/08) SchH III M R Brevet AKC WD III AWD 1 STP 1 CD WAC TT
Ascomannis Jago (06/20/03) SchH III AKC WD III AWD I TT WAC
Belatucadrus (08/14/05) DS BH TT MR I
Flannchadh von der Bavarianburg (5/21/08) BH STP I

Basic obedience,
what a wonderful idea.

Well it wouldn't be easy at this dogs age, but you must start somewhere and the beginning is usually the best place to start.
A novice with this breed will definitely need some help.

Very good idea.


Moons.

I don't agree that mals are aggressive and not pets. Ive worked with a few of them that were over the top crazy for something to do but I would not classify them as aggressive. ive more than my share of aggressive shepherds however.

It sounds like poster you didnt socialize her as a puppy and now she is acting out. Get her into class from a qualified trainer. As you already admitted, this IS your fault so do something about it. My concern however " I would spend money and time if needed suggests that your really may not committed to the dog so in the best interest of the dog, you might want to consider giving her to someone who can mentally stimulate her and give her an out for her energy levels. Otherwise she may end up biting someone and then your choices will no longer be yours to make.

If I'm wrong and you are willing to commit to her then basic obedience (sit, stay, down, etc) will be the foundation work for other avenues. Make sure to choose a trainer that specializes in aggression AND is qualified. Someone suggested a club where other mal people may be at. They will be able to help you and make suggestions to get the dog going in the right direction. Go to USA schutzhund or the other club cant remember the name right off the top of my head, and get names of clubs and contact them. Even if schutzhund is not your sport, you may be able to find a qualified trainer and other mal people to work with. There is no easy fix and time will be your best friend along with hard work on your part. The question now is: Are you willing to do it.

I have zero time for ignorance. Hardred has the infomation, has privately assured me that she is trying it, and then the proof will be in the pudding it will work or it won't end of story.

"Go to USA schutzhund or the other club cant remember the name right off the top of my head, and get names of clubs and contact them."

I believe Hardred is in the Phillipine Islands? Which is why I suggest the Philiipine Mondio Ring Association



Thomas Barriano
Dubheasa Germania (11/05/99-08/11/08) SchH III M R Brevet AKC WD III AWD 1 STP 1 CD WAC TT
Ascomannis Jago (06/20/03) SchH III AKC WD III AWD I TT WAC
Belatucadrus (08/14/05) DS BH TT MR I
Flannchadh von der Bavarianburg (5/21/08) BH STP I

IMHO, the issue is not whether Mals are aggressive or not.  The issue is that this particular owner feels their particular Mal is very aggressive.  Mals are not something to mess around with.  While some can be as docile as a baby, others can be very aggressive.  In fact, a mal can be docile with one person and aggressive with another.

Anyone getting a Mal for a pet needs to work with someone very experienced with Mals to pick out the appropriate dog.

I love Malinois.  I think they are incredible dogs.  They can be extremely obedient and are very trainable.  But they tend to be very athletic, which makes them potentially extremely dangerous.  A malinois can easily jump an 8ft fence and they can easy rip someone's face off.  That's not to say that EVERY mailinois will do so, only to say that they can.

If an owner says they have a very aggressive Malinois, they should seek out the most experienced trainer of malinois they can find to at the very least have their dog evaluated.  Once an evaluation has been made, then the appropriate training methods can be worked out.



 

Not downplaying OPs' visual observation but the description she states in her first post doesn't exactly describe AGGRESSION. And then she states "for many months........." what if anything took place in those for many months? Not saying you don't understand the dog or can/can not control the dog but if you can control the dog I would go back to square one and do what needed to be done in the beginning. If you can not control the dog and I mean in training not when he is just being a dog in your arms or in your house. But in training, to obtain the results you want then by all means look to a qualified trainer. But for me nothing you explained shows an aggressive dog to me.