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Shtal

by Shtal on 19 August 2014 - 20:08

Beetree, in my book of judgment anybody who would think Jesus is gay like GSDLineage and vk4, I would consider them that they are themselves somewhat part gay. Only gay people would say that.

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 19 August 2014 - 21:08

Chaz  :   DALLAS LOST

  BOOO HOO HOO

I need to come visit you and show you my new pup.....lol

 

WHY in the world are you wasting your time arguing  with a WOMAN who says that about gays..

GOD created Adam And EVE not ADAM AND STEVE as the pair for procreating the human race to serve HIM.

 

Read the Hebrew text to understand GODS words.

Elohim is  plural also...GOD the Father, GOD the SOn and GOD the Holy GHOST,

GAY is a preferance

YR


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 19 August 2014 - 21:08

How about this for a theory ?   Some people are born gay [maybe a COMBINATION of genetics,

rather than the mythical "Gay gene"];  for those people, they realise at some point while growing up

that they are attracted to their own gender, and definitely not attracted to the opposite gender.

Other people are born and grow up knowing they are / feel completely heterosexual. Always.

Then there are many, like me, who sooner or later realise they are capable of loving PEOPLE,

and the gender is incidental.  Some of us are more gay than straight;  some more straight than

gay [c/f the 'Kinsey scale' -  for those open-minded enough to think a bit deeper].

Then it can perhaps be seen as more a matter of making choices.

Plenty of potential for those alternatives in foetal development,

 

I stand by my earlier question :  why does it matter ?  Unless you wish to tell the rest of society

they have to live by YOUR rules, not a set of their own, does it really matter if it is 1 in 10, or 2 in 50,

or 90 in a hundred individuals that at some point have relationships with their own gender ?    Can I remind

people of the Tom Robinson song  "Sing if you're glad to be gay" and the line in it that asks sardonically :

"the buggers are legal now; what more are they after ?"

 

And could posters please TRY to remember, there are no direct routes between being homosexual and

being a child mollester ;  as an abuse survivor, I know only too well that the male heterosexual paedophile is

still in the greater number.


by vk4gsd on 19 August 2014 - 22:08

i go with the homophobic = closet gay ie Paul.

always funny reading the long and growing list of xian leaders preaching anti-gay that are......gay.

 

you want links? or the reality too much?

 

 

 

 

 


by beetree on 19 August 2014 - 22:08

It matters on an evolutionary scale. Not about anyone's own personal pleasure meter. Put your expanded mind thinking hat on that.

Oh, and that is why the idea of love must be understood as separate in talking about sexuality determination via physical attraction. Especially in the genetic realm. Epigenetics are opening up new ideas.

I can see why this is a political hot potato. Any research findings in genetic sex differences will alienate some group thought, or another.


GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 20 August 2014 - 00:08

No, it doesn't make a bit of difference in the grand scheme of things, because bi-sexual is most likely what we are by nature.  It doesn't matter in the larger animal kingdom, as a very small percentage are strictly homosexual.  There's a big difference between procreation and sex, only because we know how it works.  The desire must be there and must be strong and the urge has been reined in to respect rights, because we're civilized.  Homosexuality doesn't make a difference to evolution, infertility has more of an impact.


by beetree on 20 August 2014 - 00:08

Bisexual the dominate choice by nature? The percentages know that assertion is skewed and false. More likely it is an incomplete imprinting. Maybe a disrupted one. The proof is in the provided equipment. That is not haphazard. No getting around that.


by beetree on 20 August 2014 - 00:08

I am surprised at your narrowness of scope. Of course our being separate sexes is necessary for exisitance is proven by our very breath. Just being alive now, in this, the pinnacle in time, is ultimately proof as evolutionarily successful for the next generation in humans and most other species of life. You need to make the logical stretch, that there is available technology that now negates the reproductive necessity of separate sexes for the purpose of rearing children.

This will effectively eliminate the best effects of natural selection, the point we are at today. That will have a huge impact on an evolutionary scale. 

 


by vk4gsd on 20 August 2014 - 02:08

oh but evolution is not even true according to most here - funny how the bible bashers get themselves in knots trying to maintain so many untruths.

anyhoo god must contain all that is male and female - what that means for clear gender distinctions?

all comes down to minding yr own dang business.


GSD Lineage

by GSD Lineage on 20 August 2014 - 08:08

I though vk4gsd's comment was funny and also brought out a point/angle I had not thought of. We will never know a lot of things about Jesus, they did not have pictures back then either, and people don't even agree on what he looked like. :)

Orientation is not chosen, but you can choose not to act on any feelings if you wish.

Also, Actors pretend whatever their role requires, many play both orientations to perfection.

Russel Crowe in a Gay role:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_eGUINTNHA

Russel Crowe as Noah:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OSaJE2rqxU

 






 


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