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Bundishep

by Bundishep on 25 July 2015 - 20:07

I got to thinking today all the differant types of ball drive a dog can be born with, in another thread it was talked about drive for a live or dead ball,is there such a thing as balanced ball drive or is all the more idea meaning ( BALL CRAZY) ? ,seems to me it all depends on the task at hand how the trainer is wanting to train,or what task or the job the dog is being employed at, meaning what is the dogs day job,playing ?,hunting ?looking for drugs ?, on the cop beat ?,breeding goals in a working kennel and what the end drives are being sought after ? Ive always liked high ball drive because to me its a great training tool, but i,ve also admired the dogs that you can hide a ball and he will work out the problem slowly carefully without tearing up the entire house but still with much determination and focus.

Dawulf

by Dawulf on 25 July 2015 - 21:07

I like high ball drive, as its a great training tool, but there can always be too much of a good thing. I have seen a couple of dogs who were obsessive asshats, who would SCREAM for the ball, and nothing the owner did could curb that. When drive overcomes clear-thinking THAT is too much, IMO. But poor training could be a contributing factor in that example. Those dogs were of the same/similar lines, and were very very sporty dogs.

by Gustav on 26 July 2015 - 03:07

German shepherds are not Malinois!

AnaSilva

by AnaSilva on 26 July 2015 - 09:07

I don't know about ball drive but sticks, logs, bars (sometime even dead small trees)... Becky gets totally obsessed about...

by Allan1955 on 26 July 2015 - 14:07

Personally i don't like any drive so high that it overrides a dogs natural survival instincts.

In this case to much of a good thing, when you hypothetically throw a ball into an abbys and the dog jumps to its death after it.

I like my dogs to still be able to stop at the edge and look for the best way down.

Gustav i could not agree with you more.


Q Man

by Q Man on 26 July 2015 - 15:07

Some people say that you can NEVER have too much Ball Drive...or too High of Ball Drive...I think these people have never experienced this so they don't know...You CAN have too much of anything...
As was said above...High Ball Drive is a great tool but the dog must be able to think thru it...There are many ways to work with this but you must be knowledgeable and patient to do so...
You must have experience to work with these Higher Drive type dogs... ... ...The Higher Drive Dogs aren't for the beginner...You have to learn how to deal with these...
This is also one of the reasons people are told that Malinois aren't for everyone...They have high drive and need an experienced handler to work with them...

~Bob~

by joanro on 26 July 2015 - 15:07

A proper German shepherd should able to be a family dog and be able to do real work. Not one or the other.

yogidog

by yogidog on 26 July 2015 - 16:07

To much Drive overcomes the work ability. His mind,ability to live with a family sometimes it can even make you think your dog is strong because with the ball he fierce .the dog is actually a nuisance with no control a danger to himself and others .and most importantly their will be no clear head high drive and no blance is a diaster. Gsd are always to be stable

by Haz on 26 July 2015 - 23:07

Yes you can have too much. Then if your not careful you get hurt or the dog does.

Bundishep

by Bundishep on 27 July 2015 - 23:07

Some interesting ideas presented and it seems like the majority feel you can have to much ball drive and when i say ball drive it can mean stick or other objects that the dog wants to chase or find or carry or sniff out. I would also think the other end of the spectrum is also not good little or no ball drive whatsoever






 


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