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Oli (admin)

by Oli on 22 April 2014 - 23:04

There are so ridiculously many reasons to change old pedigrees.  

First: What exactly should be locked,?  

The name?  (what if it is spelled v.d. and someone wants to spell it correctly as "von der").   
Parents ?   what if the mother is a duplicate and there is another version that has 10x the progeny. 
Extras? (such as titles or work titles).  What if they titles are rubbish such as VA5 instead of the correct VA ,  (or *shudder* with stuff like "SG7 2010 MEXICO") <- Clearly not a legal title. 
Parent not known: Should that be locked?  Someone could connect a completely bogus parent.

The system has a very simple "revert" system (in the History of changes) which you can use if someone messes with a pedigree (we keep all the changes online.  nothing is lost).  Someone does something stupid and with one click you simply revert to the old version.

The only sure way I have thought of during these 13 years the site has been online (first as schafer.is and then pedigreedatabase.com from 2003)  is to verify a 5 generation pedigree from a valid pink paper or AKC/KC/CKC/etc... paper and then lock all 33 dogs,  i.e. verify that the whole pedigree is correct and all the names are correct and then lock all of the 33 pedigrees.  It really has to be done that way.  

* and even then you can only verify that particular dog,  not any of their parents/grandparents since they do not have the minimum,  they would simply be "locked" not "verified".

Otherwise it's too simple to modify the great grandmother and mess up a pedigree.  A lock needs to be for *minimum* for all dogs on the pedigree paper.  Locking a single dog doesn't really do anything.

 


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 25 April 2014 - 17:04

Oli,

thank you for responding, that was more important to me than the response itself.

The Internet has never been secure, it never will be, that being said, I believe you do all that is possible to keep things as secure as possible here.

You are correct, it is a very complex problem with few simple solutions available.

To notify people of changes will at least allow a quick overview of those changes so they don't go unoticed and can be desputed if need be.

Logging who made changes is in fact the simplest way to offer some security which you already do.

To enhance this I would suggest a request form to fill out before changes can be made, a more detailed varification if you will of who is making these changes, and then a one time only password for each change to enter a change mode on the pedigree in question.

This would prevent someone from just randomly changing pedigrees at will.

The one thing I trust and can never be altered is my official pedigree document and the official documents offered to me by others reguardless of what can be found online.

You have created a wonderful tool for people to utilize and for that I thank you, and you also made a place for people to interact and share which is just as important to me.

I would hope some of my other concerns have at least come to your attention and are being considered.

 

Brent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 






 


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