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dogladyj

by dogladyj on 07 November 2009 - 02:11

KCzaja,
Where can I find this on facebook? can you post the link?

JoAnn Letcher

VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 07 November 2009 - 02:11

http://apps.facebook.com/causes/392013/57781439

There you are. You can also message me, Kelly Czaja.

by hexe on 07 November 2009 - 02:11

Y'know, folks, the USA general membership staged a revolt before, when the grasps of the officers sent the organization into financial ruin--anyone remember when members suddenly didn't get their magazine, because the publisher hadn't been paid and finally cut them off?  Remember the little empire that had been built back then, which came tumbling down when enough of the 'nobody' members had enough of the shenanigans?

It's been done before. It can be done again, if enough people are interested in reclaiming the organization. 

Oh, and to Dawn, who said:

"What a shame for the dogs!'

remember this:  the dogs could not possibly care less.  As long as they get to hang out and do stuff with their person, they don't give a damn if there's a USA or a recognized trial or anything else.  It's the two-legged member of the partnership that has the ego needs.

(My dogs are 14 years old, so I don't really care what happens to USA, either. I dropped out after I moved to an area where the nearest club was 4 hours from me (one way); I couldn't see paying individual membership dues to a National organization that considered me to be non-existent because I didn't belong to a member club in addition to the National one.  For my annual $60, I felt I should at least get to vote by email or something.)

Dawn G. Bonome

by Dawn G. Bonome on 07 November 2009 - 04:11

It IS  a shame when people forget it is for,  and about the dogs, and not a glorified Testosterone Club, with rules that are changed on a whim,  so a person can feel powerful, and people follow like sheep, just because they are afraid to stand up to him.
It is sad... life is short for us and our dogs.
It is what it is ... and I will still enjoy MY DOGS, and MY LIFE, and do not need a CLUB or ORGANIZATION.


ShelleyR

by ShelleyR on 07 November 2009 - 13:11

Brilliant. 
Cause USA membership to avoid many of the too few training opportunities and events available in this country, opportunities to aquire titles and ratings necessary for breeding in order to follow the SV breed standard, in the name of preserving the quality of the breed.

The passing of this rule is a tragedy and a shame for the breed and the sport in this country, and an embarrassment for the general membership of USA.

My questions are these:
  • How is USA planning to enforce this rule?
  • Are there funds in the budget ear-marked for Membership Police, covertly installed undercover in the WDA office?
  • Shall any USA member listed as a competitor in the official catalog of a major WDA event be ejected from USA?
Freaking brilliant. I feel sure I can hear the Europeans laughing from here... again.

SS

by Kessy on 08 November 2009 - 03:11

I am just spechless to this bylaw change.....
 They appearantly can't bare a Code of Ethics- since there is still none in place...but dictate membership???
Speaking of morals and ethics...but can't have a Code of Ethics???
Somethings wrong, but that's just my oppinion!

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 08 November 2009 - 05:11

JudyK:   I was wondering the same thing???? The new CZARSHIP may not effect the NASS this today?? 

Also   Where else do you send to get the HIP Ratings done by SV if not thru the USA???

HEXE:    AMEN AND AMEN!

I think I will go frame my  last USA magazine


YR

gagsd4

by gagsd4 on 08 November 2009 - 12:11

YR asks..... "Also Where else do you send to get the HIP Ratings done by SV if not thru the USA???"

try http://www.gsdca-wda.org/a-stampprogramguides.htm

--Mary

sueincc

by sueincc on 08 November 2009 - 13:11

I wonder how many of you who want to switch to GSDCA WDA, or cancel your USA membership,  because you think the process is so much more democratic, or are angry because USA is asking you to make a choice, have actually read the GSDCA WDA bylaws?  Skip down to the section IV OFFICERS & BOARD OF DIRECTORS, interesting reading, explains a lot about where the balance of power within the organization truly lies.  Also explains how certain people who screwed the last WDA President, (something many of  the membership were  extremely upset about, and thought would be done with in the subsequent election, can still somehow remain in positions of power.  These powerful people don't even have to have any knowledge or experience in schutzhund or SV showing, or have WDA best interests at heart.   Be very careful, you may just be  jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
http://www.gsdca-wda.org/forms/GSDCA-WDABy-lawsRev1503.pdf

Kim Gash

by Kim Gash on 08 November 2009 - 14:11

All organizations function under the same trial rules and when offering conformation venues,  show and koerung (breed survey rules).  So no matter who is in charge, who is voted in, who is an idiot, who has experience, whatever political intrigue happens, all function under the same trial, show and breed survey rules.  Its a mute point who argues with whom, screws whom, as long as the organization continues to comport to the international rules and memebrships that we compete under. To keep in accordance with the WUSV membership, there is no choice in the matter - so all the political BS and power struggles and whether people train, show or even own a dog that got elected or appointed have any hands on experience does not affect the internationals rules on trial, show and breed surveys all clubs function under.  No one elected is dumb enough to do anything that would cause a loss of their WUSV for the Shepherds or their FCI, or VDH standing and cause their club to lose its abiltiy to function.

The only difference with who is elected or who is in charge is how petty they will be and how that pettiness affects day to day amendments and functions that cause it to be harder to enjoy being a member of any club.  People join clubs for enjoyment.  Whether its tiddlywinks, dogs, basketweaving or horses, people want to take their few disposable dollars and have fun.  When any leadership creates a stressful environment, lessens the fun or does idiot things while taking members money then eventually people will just quit sending money. 

Any club, who makes it onerous to be a member is going to lose members; any club who makes it fun and stress free to be a member is going to blossom.  I really don't care if elected officers kill each other, hate each other, have degrees in dog training, a fifth grade education or a masters degree.  I care if they keep the organization comporting with the terms of their international memberships that allow me to title and Koer my dogs and those titles adn even registrations are not meaningless.  Call me a dumbass, but this sport and conformation titles are a hell of a lot of work even on club level and I if I can get a world standard or a local standard for the same amount of work, might as well get the gold.  I also do not want an organizational mind set that is so insecure that they say you can belong to only me.  Guys I dated like that were creepy and it has not lost it creepiness when a dog organziation has done it.





 


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