Schutzhund USA proposed bylaw Change - Page 1

Why is this topic not getting more discussion? Does the pedigree database community not view this proposal by USA as important?

Eric S. Eisenberg

and which proposal are you referring to?

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Vikram:

                   Are you channeling Doris Day?

Eric:

The discussion you are several weeks late on? I assume you are speaking of Johannes By law change? If memory does,nt fail me I believe most were against it and hope fully made there feelings known to there rep to  the national meeting.

At this point my opinion isn,t that we need to worry about the WDA as much as we need to be concerened with AKC throwing the bone to us.

Bob, can you explain why we need to be worried about WDA. I am a member of both UScA and WDA, trying to learn all I can about both.

Eric, I can't imagine that the proposal will pass.

The club I am a member of has always been a UScA club. The secretary sent out an e-mail this week asking if the membership was in favor of becoming affiliated with WDA as a dual club. And then going WDA if the proposal were to pass. I am pretty sure that we are not the only ones discussing options should something such as this be shoved down our throats.

Rik

Rik:

 It,s not a problem with the WDA as the GSDCA is all but ignoring them (as I have read) My post says It,s not a problem with the WDA. Our concern should be what is the AKC doing?  

But I do agree if this gets voted in I believe USA will loss clubs just because the orginization will be over stepping it,s boundries trying to  tell the membership who they can belong to and not. 

I,m not a supporter of the GSDCA as I don,t believe they have the working dog at it,s best and most important intrest I also feel the same about the S.V. . There is more then 1 orginization in Germany.    

Bob, I tend to agree with most of that. I was for several years a member of GSDCA. I never felt that the GSD health or character was a priority with them.

I have only been a member of WDA ( and UScA) for a little over a year.

As I understand events that occured in the WDA before I became a member, the WDA membership pretty much staged a "hostile" take over of the leadership of WDA, voting out the entrenched GSDCA leadership and installing officers who more represent the goals of the membership.

WDA President Dr. Danny Spreitler is a w/l guy who also shows. I know from reading his blog (dspreitler.wordpress.com/)  that he has been in a struggle with some (not all) members of the GSDCA board over the  direction of WDA.

Apparently the GSDCA leadership is now backing the WDA fully.

If I'm missing something here, I invite correction from anyone better informed.

Rik

I wish someone would provide the reasoning behind the proposed amendments.  I think this has more to do with the preservation of schutzhund in this country than it does with anything else.  I hope someone will come forward with an explanation.  I worry that if an explanation is not provided, everyone will only have  a knee jerk negative reaction because they don't like being told what they can and cannot do,  which may ultimately come to bite us in the ass.

I  doubt the AKC GSDCA is backing WDA.  This has more to do with running the  WUSV event smoothly,  than it does WDA.   Watch what happens AFTER the event.  A leopard does not change it's spots, and AKC GSDCA is always going to support the AKC standard and the overwhelming majority of it's membership who breed and show according to that standard, not  the comparitively small group of WDA breeders/exhibitors.  I wouldn't be surprised if AKC GSDCA with a straight face will insist or vote to make sure at least half of the WUSV future teams are comprised of Am Line dogs. 

UScA and DVG America  are first and foremost schutzhund organizations, so those are the organizations I support. I  remember when WDA  was started, and by whom, and what those very same members did to get the previous WDA president  out not long ago.  This is why as long as those particular members, or anyone who suports them,  has even a toe in the WDA pie, I just can't see relying on or trusting WDA at all when it comes to schutzhund.  Bad News.

Sue:

          The WDS program is a joke as I have read it  so if the AKC does decide to recognize Schutzhund titles on the pedigree,s who do you think will be getting them? W.D.A judges of course or any  titles given by  S.V. judges there is the quandry for AKC what if a USA member is given a title under a S.V. judge will they recognize that?. I,m trying to put together stuff from articles I,ve read and conversations i,ve been privey to which isn,t always the best way to get information. I agree some one needs to step up and give some clear information so speculation receedes. 

I also feel it has lots to do with the GSDCA hosting the 2013 WUSV as some in the USA org. don,t want any from this orginization helping to orgistrate that event. Lots o stuff brewing and the GSD is the one who will loss out to the politics in the long run.