The GSD must SPLIT away from The Alsation! - Page 2

Just for clarification here is an excerpt from wikpedia regarding Alsatians/GSDs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Shepherd_Dog


The direct translation of the name was adopted for use in the official breed registry; however, at the conclusion of World War I, it was believed that the inclusion of the word "German" would harm the breed's popularity, due to the anti-German sentiment of the era. The breed was officially renamed by the UK Kennel Club to "Alsatian Wolf Dog"  which was also adopted by many other international kennel clubs. Eventually the appendage "wolf dog" was dropped. The name Alsatian remained for five decades, until 1977, when successful campaigns by dog enthusiasts pressured the British kennel clubs to allow the breed to be registered again as German Shepherd Dogs.

also...

Origins

In Europe, during the 1800s, dog breeds were beginning to be standardized. The dogs were bred to preserve traits that assisted in their job of herding sheep and protecting flocks from predators. In Germany this was practiced within local communities, with the shepherds selecting and breeding dogs together that they believed had good traits, such as intelligence, strength, and keen senses of smell. The results were dogs that were able to perform admirably in their task, but that differed significantly, both in appearance and ability, from one locality to another.

To combat these differences, the Phylax Society was formed in 1891 with the intention of creating standardised dog breeds in Germany. The society disbanded after only three years due to an ongoing, internal conflict regarding the traits that the society should promote; some members believed dogs should be bred solely for working purposes, while others believed dogs also should be bred for appearance. While unsuccessful in their goal, the Phylax Society had inspired people to pursue standardising dog breeds independently.

So to everyone, There is no difference between the two names, GSD is the proper and ONLY name which should be used, please if there is any split to be made can everyone decide on another type of split i.e. Belgian Shepherds

As for breed standards, The health of the breed depends on strong and healthy dogs and for ANYONE to say who should be leading this standard, they alone must be producing the ultimate in strength and posture.

I may be way off the mark here, but isn't it the well being of the dog that matters the most?

kalstras, I shouldn't think that there are too many breeders that don't know the story behind the name!  (It's AlsatiaAn btw)  "We" know the short legged over long type as Alsatians or English / UK type.
 
The well being of any dog is paramount... we have a KC that refuses to apply basic health checks to help ensure that, because our KC is a business with little interest in the welfare of our dogs.

I;m afraid i must agree with David, the time for Diplomacy has passed, and the faceless people who run Cartel known as the Kennel Club must be made to listen to the wishes of the people who have the most knowledge of the GSD: the BREEDERS AND EXHIBITORS, for without them there would not be a Kennel Club in which they can abuse their POWER.
            The phrase Ivory Towers springs to mind, but there are none so blind as those that don't want to see.  For those of you with long memories you will recall that we failed to seize the Initiative  in 1986/7 when the GSD PROGRESSIVE GROUP wanted us to breakaway from the KC, hindsight tells us that we should have, we had the whip hand then, shows were well attended, entries were consistently in the hundreds,  and we had twice as many CCs allocated , but no,  what did we do? 
 we rolled over to the KC who broke promise after promise to us on trying to find a meaningful way forward in order for us to run our own affairs. Perhaps  we should have one last concerted effort, and if that fails then we must  breakaway, and to hell with the consequences.
Regards Paul Rattigan.

David, it's good to see your return to the forum here and I wholeheartedly agree with your statements. It seems as even though we are separated by a vast ocean that the same division exists between the dog recognized by our national kennel clubs and the German Shepherd Dog. There is but ONE F.C.I. standard for the GSD, and the interpretation and application of this breed standard must fall to the S.V..
 
Longtime readers here and acquaintences know that I have often criticized the S.V. for occassionally passing animals that have a high roach, massive skull, short neck, and overangulated rear hocks. But, all things considered, at least the S.V. intends to keep the GSD as a working dog of sound and correct temperament while enforcing correct physical size and anatomical structure.

Best Regards,
Bob-O

 I understand there is a meeting of the GSD Breed Council next week. One of the two items on the agenda is to discuss the Kennel Club amendments to the GSD Kennel Club Breed Standard.

There is only one decision to be made regarding this subject, and that is a TOTAL REJECTION of all the KC amendments.  We must NOT compromise or enter into discussions with the Kennel Club on this matter. We could give the Kennel Club the SV Breed Standard and the FCI Breed Standard and tell them - END OF DISCUSSION.

Whatever their response, we should initiate a comprehensive investigation of an alternative REGISTRATION FACILITY as a matter of urgency. We should set up a FUND to finance this.

The Kennel Club could alternatively hand over the whole responsibility of the GSD within the UK, outside of registrations, to a reconstituted GSD Breed Council.

The Kennel Club should step aside, or we should step OUTSIDE.

just for the deification of morons like me, could you please post a photo of an Alsation next to a photo of a GSD......