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by owl01 on 18 January 2009 - 19:01
by Videx on 18 January 2009 - 19:01
by missbeeb on 18 January 2009 - 19:01
owl, Every breed has been engineered by humans at some point in its' existence. Did you think Shepherds, Poodles, Yorkies etc just happened? No, of course you didn't. The best dogs, with the best construction / attitude and aptitude are used... the rest, as they say, is history.
by EgyptianQueen on 18 January 2009 - 19:01
by jesse james on 18 January 2009 - 19:01
Well said Missbeeb.
Don't understand (and never have) why the Kc persist in promoting the Alsatian as a GSD. There is a breed standard for the GSD in it's country of origin surely that is the only standard that is relevant. I shudder to think what gose on at the Kennel Club. Perhaps a few too many G & Ts.
Jess
by missbeeb on 18 January 2009 - 19:01
by Ally B on 18 January 2009 - 19:01
I appreciate where your coming from but these Dinosaurs will not be around for ever.There is a whole NEW generation out there & these are the ones that will have to be educated to what a correct shepherd should look like.This new generation will be the breeds future
Regards
Ally
by EgyptianQueen on 18 January 2009 - 19:01
So only a Show Enthusiast knows anything about conformation???
Heavens David where do you get off??
Surely a Shepherd should be fit for purpose??.
Shepherds ARE working dogs afterall.
In my humble opinion it appears that only one opinion is deemed valid in any debate you engineer, and that is your own very blinkered one.
Anyone who does not agree is shouted down and subjugated to a DP Rant
by owl01 on 18 January 2009 - 19:01
by Bancroft on 18 January 2009 - 19:01
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5536800.ece
Breeding for Show Causes Stupid Dogs
THE desire of pet owners for attractive-looking dogs has eroded the mental agility and alertness of the working breeds from which they are descended, researchers have suggested.
Only a century ago, guard dogs had to protect houses or livestock, and gun dogs needed to find and pick up dead birds to justify their upkeep.
Now, however, their descendants are merely required to look attractive. The behaviour expected of them is to be friendly and docile at home, rather than alert and aggressive outside.
Scientists in Sweden have found strong evidence that breeding modern dogs for their appearance has led to a decline in intelligence.
A separate group of researchers from Lincoln University is to investigate whether this is linked to the dogs’ loss of a working role. Pilot studies suggest so-called working breeds perform particularly badly in tests of attentiveness and responsiveness.
Kenth Svartberg, author of the Swedish research, said the changes in intelligence had happened over just a few generations.
“Modern breeding practices are affecting the behaviour and mental abilities of pedigree breeds as well as their physical features,” he said.
Researchers believe too many breeders are now concentrating on outward aspects and ignoring the mental qualities of dogs to appeal to modern pet owners and the dog shows that dictate the characteristics of pure breeds.
The trend has been exacerbated by inbreeding.
Pedigree bulldogs, for example, often have genetic defects that lead to skin and coat problems, breathing disorders, joint problems and cleft palates.
Svartberg, who carried out his research at Stockholm University, gave 10 tests to 13,000 dogs to rate 31 breeds on characteristics such as sociability and curiosity.
He found that, in general, animals that were bred for appearance, and especially for shows, displayed reduced levels of all these qualities.
The worst affected breeds included smooth collies and rhodesian ridgebacks. These showed low interest in exercises to test their curiosity and sociability and were also likely to walk away from a strange object.
Svartberg found there were also variations within breeds according to what the particular dogs had been bred for.
He said attractive appearance was often linked with introversion and a boring personality.
“Perhaps the genes behind attractive looks could also be closely linked [on the same chromosome] to those that cause fearfulness,” he said.
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