I've found something inspiring in this mess of mudslinging - Page 1

Look, an actual adult, I'm really impressed!

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/10/10/arianne-zucker-responds-to-donald-trumps-comments-about-her-on-access-hollywood-bus.html

Trump's antics and those defending his "locker room" talk just don't seem to get the idea touching anyone or kissing anyone without permission is assault.  To down play it is to show that the culture that victim blames is still alive and well.........

When an alleged victim seeks justice ten or twenty years later for an unwanted kiss aka "assault", I have to just smirk a little bit. It isn't justice she's after, it is only political vengeance.

When I was inappropriately touched by a stranger in a bar during the eighties at a punk rock bar in New Haven, I screamed out in protest, right there and then. The male companions I was with, immediately proceeded to get physical with the offender and eventually the bouncers, too, and it resulted that everyone got kicked out, and I do recall there were some broken ribs made by the contact with someone's steel-toed boots. Those were the days, my friends—we thought they'd never end, lol.

So, when some woman says this type of thing happened while she was sitting in a bar next to some other friends, and yet she didn't say anything...because ...? ... until decades later... I have to go, hmm.

She should have at least hauled back and smacked him, à la Scarlett O' Hara, I mean really.  So tell me, whose story sounds more credible? Mine or hers?

Wow, get a clue Bee - all these woman want political revenge? Why didn't these woman come forward at the time? Really, really, really try and open your mind to the real and probable reasons some of these woman didn't speak up. Then you have icky octopus-sy on numerous occasions point blankly telling US he does these things, his words, his life and your blindness to support/defend a self described sexual predator, get real. So, when icky is done - republican party dead in the water - all 3 branches in dem control. And the blame is squarely on the dysfunctional republican party. Your honer, I rest my case.

Why can't you put some specifics with your allegations? The point is there are as many reasons as accusers.

And again with the over the top exaggerations. Can't a discussion be broached about what really takes place between men and women, and if money buys acquiescence, how true, or not?  Don't people use each other all the time?

I just think women who actually suffered assault need to be believed. Not someone who wanted dinner first before deciding if it was worth being kissed.

Sexual predator really doesn't explain the skewing from power and perception of wealth and fame when seeking out new sex partners from Trump. Seems to me if he was rebuked, the kissing or groping, ended. The Bill Cosby allegations by contrast are predatory. I think Trump might kiss women readily, without spoken permission, thinking they would be interested because of his money. He must have been right more times than not, otherwise he would have abandoned that move.

A bad dating strategy, but predator, no, that is a gross exaggeration. Typical of the liberal speech. Just try to keep it real. I gave a real story, you gave nothing but vagueness with supposition. You honor wasn't impressed.

And there you go again, thinking you know who I support even when I have been clear neither candidate appeals to me.

Why you keep on insisting on that stance says something, too.

How many times do I have to say, I think Hillary will win at this time? I don't think she will get the House and Senate to go Dem majority, as you suggest. I think she's going to prove her true reflective qualities and will get her ass kicked out at the end of these upcoming four years.

If the Republican Party can't be reborn out of these ashes, there should still be a different party choice. Unless you really are for a socialist, one party future for the USA? Are you?

Bee, when you are willing to take his side over other woman, it says a lot more than you think. I bet if you poll all the people who post here most probably think you will vote for him. It is okay to come out of the closet. I am for sanity and the republican party has gone beyond crazy. Obstruction, incompetence and hate should never be allowed and no more what party it is coming from it should be shunned by the masses and not embraced. Congress has a constitutional mandate to hold hearings on a new Supreme court nomination and by not doing it they have no room to tell us about the 2nd. The republicans have set a precedence that will come back and haunt them in the future and you can bet your ass that they will whine like teething babies when that day comes.

GSDAdmin. I am not taking "his" side over "her" side. You continually want to make it seem like that, for sure. Polling this site of the handful of people who bother to post would be meaningless, as that "majority" have made it clear they will support Hillary and the Dems no matter what. And there is plenty of "what" to consider.

LOL, I have probably put the most honestly written posts on here, and look what I get for it? A closet! LOL That is funny! What you never have understood is that I don't respect the results that are always committee generated. Lots of mediocrity happens with that approach. There is something exceptional about certain individuals, that makes for a true and great leader. We don't have that with either of these candidates.

And you didn't answer the question about a socialist USA? That appeals to you, doesn't it?

I agreed about the delay of the Supreme Court nomination as not being a good thing. Did you forget? I also am for gun control. Which btw, the Sandy Hook lawsuit has recently been forced to go to appeals, the new judge supported the gun manufacturers as being protected, and dismissed their lawsuit. That is a set back, unfortunately.

I predict we get to hear Hillary whine often and loud over the next four years, like fingernails on a chalkboard, just the sound of her voice will drive me nuts.

It's a short drive 

Never substance or a personal POV from you, either. So a stupid remark is fitting and as good as it gets.