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by BlackMalinois on 10 July 2016 - 10:07
There was a article in the USA police K9 magazin about problems with gunshot KNPV dogs I have heard they bite there own handlers..... Personal I have never seen it here and I have seen many KNPV dogs in Holland
This is the exercise silence KNPV gunshot with 9 mm my club
This is a fresh KNPV K9 just certified for his KNPV PH-1 ready for duty
his new handler test this dog 9 mm gunshot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEg8gTQXtl4
If somebody can post that article here from USA Police K9 magazin I like to read it

by Q Man on 10 July 2016 - 13:07
I wonder how many dogs have hearing problems from this type of training...
~Bob~
by duke1965 on 10 July 2016 - 15:07
there are actually two articles about it, one is in K9 cop magazine jan 2013, I will quote
for example, you and your canine are approaching a call, you have good control over your dog, so he is healing next to you off line, Your cover officer is arriving and heading your way,
As the two of you approach, the cover officer observes a threath and engages that threath with gunfire, you immediately take cover and draw your weapon,
Meanwhile your dog, who iss agressive on gunfire, perceives the cover officer as a threath, AND DOES JUST WHAT HE WAS TRAINED TO DO, BITE THE THREATH
will see if I can find the other issue were this matter is discussed, but it will be hard to make you believe what is happening in the real world

by BlackMalinois on 10 July 2016 - 16:07
Well Duke I don,t say it will not happen You also not work in the real world
I have spoken some police oficers who work sure in the real world
The last video is sure one oficer who works in the REAL world and the dog
looks also fine to me this is a fresh KNPV dog
If you can post that article here it will be fine.
Also it is very easy to re- train gunfire issue if there is.....................
sure a stable dog with good nerves.
Personal I have more trust in Holland police K9 trainers/handlers than that trainers /handlers in the US from my observation, but that is an other story
by duke1965 on 10 July 2016 - 19:07
policemagazines write about it, but what do they know,
it is a known problem, so why , if you train policedogs, teach them something you need to unteach again
so share your personal experiences with USA K9 handlers here please and explain why you dont trust them

by BlackMalinois on 11 July 2016 - 00:07
Duke I know who you are , you are not a K9 police officer with real life experience
you are only some dog sales man with a piece of the market in the US thats your living.
I understand you have to be friendly for business to keep your business friends over there.
Please post that article that is all what I ask
by duke1965 on 11 July 2016 - 05:07

by Jenni78 on 12 July 2016 - 00:07
Handling issues. Enough said.

by BlackMalinois on 13 July 2016 - 03:07
no mis understanding about this. ( personal I have not issues about this and nobody in my area Police K9 oficers/instructors who I have spoken also )
by jenniferbirch1989 on 21 July 2016 - 10:07
I am divided on that issue...
Dogs are so sensitive to loud noises like gunshot.
But the police still needs to train K9, and there are ways to make training more effective - http://www.gundogsupply.com/sws-gun-shy.html
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