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by Mountain Lion on 07 April 2014 - 23:04
VK4 is that you blowing smoke?
by vk4gsd on 07 April 2014 - 23:04
you to are one step above fart jokes.

by Shtal on 08 April 2014 - 00:04
Vk4 is keep mentioning the word science lol, but I think he doesn't really knows what it means. The root meaning of the word science means knowledge I believe I said that in the past. And he keep insisting or trying to mix darwin imaginations with current observational science.
by beetree on 08 April 2014 - 00:04
vk4,
I am not playing your game. Wah.... wah. You don't know squat about a whole lot of squat. You have not the imagination, only some kind of pain you can't escape. Unwillingness mixed with cleverness. Some other stuff. None I care to worry about at the moment.
When there is a real end game, let me know.
Shtal,
While I don't agree with your literalism, that does not mean I think everything you do know about the human condition has no merit. vk4, does get mightily confused.

by Mindhunt on 08 April 2014 - 00:04
"The very act of understanding is a celebration of joining, merging, even if on a very modest scale, with the magnificence of the cosmos. Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality" - Carl Sagan
Reseachers, physicians, physicists, genetisists, and others in the many different branches of science believe their craft allows them a deeper view of the wonders God has created.
VK4GSD - So how is a Christian going to a doctor so incongruent to you?

by Shtal on 08 April 2014 - 01:04
Beetree wrote: vk4, does get mightily confused.
Beetree, it literary doesn’t matter if all the evidence supports the intelligent design and contradicts naturalistic evolution, is it not that extreme is it for VK4? It is! I will quote this again: Dr. Scott Todd, an immunologist at Kansas State University said in Nature magazine: And he wrote and said “Even if all the data point to an intelligent designer, such (an) hypothesis is excluded from science because it is not naturalistic.” Now, what would VK4 do if creationist scientists got up and said; even if all the data point to Darwinian evolution as being true, such a hypothesis is you know not science because it’s not super naturalistic? Why he will scream and cry - all my goodness you think the world would end. But we suppose to put up with that, they wouldn’t tolerate for one second, but we supposed to so make an model to get them away with this illogic and we have to put our foot down and say look we are willing to discuss with you my dear vk4, we willing to talk and willing to debate, but let's level the Plainfield; lets not start with the definition guarantees you win no matter what because you define yourself as a victor by how you define the word science.
by vk4gsd on 08 April 2014 - 03:04
mind hunt i have no problem christians getting medical care, in fact i would opposse parents that refuse their child medical care based on religion. and that is secular based medical science. my problem and which you and evry other poster here keeps avoiding and making up more red herrings is you believe the bible is the true word of your omniscient and omnipotent perfect god that has given his word in the innerrant and infallible bible which i posted scripture from and that it your duty to as a christian to follow, yet you ignore it and make up lame excuses, what authority to you get to cherry-pick the bits from the bible to follow and the bits you ignore - please explain.

by Mindhunt on 08 April 2014 - 03:04
Vk4 - hmmm interesting what you assume about my spirituality. This says quite a bit about you.
I was raised Christian, exposed to many different faiths/religious beliefs throughout the years, witnessed life and death with everything that can happen inbetween up close and personal for over 20 years, and my sprituality has evolved based on my experiences. I was also taught the difference between blind faith and intelligent faith. Do you know the difference?
by vk4gsd on 08 April 2014 - 03:04
well my post to you was not so much aimed at YOUR personal faith, i would not be so rude to ask but would respect whatever you shared about it.
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