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by brynjulf on 22 February 2013 - 00:02
Can someone upload a video of how to teach the down in the box? I would like to see it with a dog who has not done it before. Mostly so I can watch where the handler is, that sort of detail. I am very interested in this but only ever see dogs who know the commands doing it. I would like to see the rough edges using this ! Thanks so much
by fozzie on 22 February 2013 - 09:02
We do the positions on the table first with contact points before we use the boxes so by the time they start using the boxes they already have a rough idea of what to do.
Here is a video I did with one of our doggy day care dogs on the table so its not flashy and its the first time she did it so theres all the rough edges but its as rough as I can show and it might give some idea as to how the work starts?
Hope thats helpful.
Ash
Here is a video I did with one of our doggy day care dogs on the table so its not flashy and its the first time she did it so theres all the rough edges but its as rough as I can show and it might give some idea as to how the work starts?
Hope thats helpful.
Ash
by Hired Dog on 22 February 2013 - 09:02
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by Dog1 on 22 February 2013 - 12:02
Ravi has posted some of his training techniques on GSD World. You should find something there. Write me if you can't locate them.
by fawndallas on 22 February 2013 - 15:02
Once again, very impressed Fozzie. Can you come to the US for a bit to mentor me and my 2 heathens (and yes, they are being total brats this week)? 
by fozzie on 22 February 2013 - 15:02
Well its my hope that one day we'll do well enough at the World Championship level that we will be invited to do seminars in different countries but we'll need to do even better than 7th place to get to that point 
by gekswag03 on 22 February 2013 - 18:02
@fozzie
I really like your video. I saw it a few days ago and really thought it was a technique i could use to start the process. A few questions
1. When you have the dog focus on the food, how would you adjust to have them focus on you or is the technique to just have them learn focus.
2. How long do you to this before the introduction of the command??
3. How long do you do this before you'd introduce the box??
Thx and again, great video
Anthony
I really like your video. I saw it a few days ago and really thought it was a technique i could use to start the process. A few questions
1. When you have the dog focus on the food, how would you adjust to have them focus on you or is the technique to just have them learn focus.
2. How long do you to this before the introduction of the command??
3. How long do you do this before you'd introduce the box??
Thx and again, great video
Anthony
by northwoodsGSD on 22 February 2013 - 23:02
Very nice! Yes, count me in as another one looking forward to you coming to the States :)
by brynjulf on 23 February 2013 - 19:02
That is exactly what I was looking for. When I am watching others train I am watching the handler not the dog. It gives me a better idea of where I am supposed to be :) Thank you so very much!
by fozzie on 23 February 2013 - 21:02
Ahh thanks just to be clear I'm no expert but to answer your questions (as far as I understand this system):
1. The main goal is to get the focus on the left hand to start with (also useful for hand targeting in heel work).
2. Vocal commands get introduced when the dog clearly understands and responds quickly and confidently to the contact points. It's always unknown signal followed by known signal. When the touch becomes a known signal you can give vocal command followed by contact point and eventually when the dog makes the right connections between the commands and contacts you can remove the contact.
3. Once everything is flowing smoothly on the table you can introduce the box! Once the dog is flowing smoothly in the box you can remove the box.
That's how it works in theory but it works better with certain types of dog. Food drive and self motivation is pretty essential. I've had dogs who have responded better to other systems.
1. The main goal is to get the focus on the left hand to start with (also useful for hand targeting in heel work).
2. Vocal commands get introduced when the dog clearly understands and responds quickly and confidently to the contact points. It's always unknown signal followed by known signal. When the touch becomes a known signal you can give vocal command followed by contact point and eventually when the dog makes the right connections between the commands and contacts you can remove the contact.
3. Once everything is flowing smoothly on the table you can introduce the box! Once the dog is flowing smoothly in the box you can remove the box.
That's how it works in theory but it works better with certain types of dog. Food drive and self motivation is pretty essential. I've had dogs who have responded better to other systems.
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