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Mindhunt

by Mindhunt on 29 July 2016 - 14:07

I always find it so interesting and ironic that the very people screaming government interference and keep government small are the first to push for government telling women what to do with their reproductive health.......

 

As for Trump, yup he is a comedian and it is hard to take him seriously or know when to, oops hope I haven't offended him and get 10 tweets for my meanness........


by Noitsyou on 30 July 2016 - 15:07

What's funny is how transparent the public is. For 8 years we have heard how Obama is going to take our guns away and violate the 2nd Amendment (and also crown himself king). They are saying the same about Hillary. 8 years of crying about something that never came to pass. Meanwhile, the conservatives in the Supreme Court managed to take a nice bite out of our 4th Amendment rights. Where is the all the outrage about our freedom from the 2nd Amendment crowd? So it's not about our rights, just some of them. It's not about what the president or politicians do but what party they belong to that matters. It's OK for republicans to be authoritarians but if it's a democrat then he wants to be a despot and must be stopped.

It goes both ways of course. But that's what happens when politics takes on tribal characteristics.

Like Picasso said, "we have learned nothing in 12,000 years."

by beetree on 30 July 2016 - 18:07

Picasso is a genius, as far as I am concerned. One of my favorite quotes of his: "When I haven't any blue, I use red."

Exactly.

What do you think of the appropriateness of this quote by E L Doctorow?

“Like art and politics, gangsterism is a very important avenue of assimilation into society.”

by Noitsyou on 30 July 2016 - 21:07

It's not an important avenue and it doesn't lead to society in general but criminal society. Look at the gangs in the inner city; they aren't an avenue to assimilation even though they aren't even immigrants. I would even argue that gangsterism based on race and/or ethnicity is actually a reaction against assimilation. Is it coincidence that the diminishing power of the Italian-American mob came along with the increased assimilation (or presence) of Italian-Americans in legitimate society at higher and higher status levels? I would also argue that Italian-Americans being represented in society came in spite of gangsterism, not because of it. One of the reasons why many southern Italians left for America was to escape the mafia, or at least the climate it maintained. A climate that prevented them from being socially mobile unlike what happened in the US. Although there is no such thing as the mafia. I don't like to be presumptuous and criticize someone like Doctorow, who was a very successful writer while I...am not, but that is a very romanticized view of organized crime that tells me he had very little direct experience with it.

Education and intermarriage are, IMO, the most important avenues. It's how one learns to truly assimilate, or at least fake it well. The military is another important avenue.





 


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