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by gouda on 22 December 2011 - 14:12
People who, instead of the sufficiency of Christ from the normal way of reading the Bible, to proclaim a greater knowledge in reading the Bible as a patchwork tapestry with a secret message. It confounds me that people would want to preach on something as dull as a magical pattern to the Scriptures.
Just my 2 cents worth.
gouda
Just my 2 cents worth.
gouda

by ggturner on 22 December 2011 - 15:12
GSDtravels--sorry it's the scientific part of me that wants to classify.
YR--numerology is often associated with astrology and the occult:
http://www.astrology.com/what-numerology/2-d-d-66854
http://www.wideninghorizons.com/numerology.shtml
There is Biblical numerology:
http://carm.org/what-biblical-numerology
http://www.asis.com/users/stag/godcount.html
However, I agree with the following:
"Yes, there are significant numbers in the Scriptures. But it is not the numbers, in and of themselves, that have any meaning. If you are all wrapped up in these MANIPULATED equations and calculations, my question of you is this: "Which part of God's -DIRECT- Word did you not understand?" And: "Are you fully obeying that which you already know?" Why are you so taken up with the occult? Yes, it is "occult". Remember our opening definition from the dictionary? As such, it is idolatry!" (Source: http://www.a-voice.org/main/numbers.htm)
Beetree--the article above talks about the Knights Templer--something you mentioned in an earlier post.
YR--numerology is often associated with astrology and the occult:
http://www.astrology.com/what-numerology/2-d-d-66854
http://www.wideninghorizons.com/numerology.shtml
There is Biblical numerology:
http://carm.org/what-biblical-numerology
http://www.asis.com/users/stag/godcount.html
However, I agree with the following:
"Yes, there are significant numbers in the Scriptures. But it is not the numbers, in and of themselves, that have any meaning. If you are all wrapped up in these MANIPULATED equations and calculations, my question of you is this: "Which part of God's -DIRECT- Word did you not understand?" And: "Are you fully obeying that which you already know?" Why are you so taken up with the occult? Yes, it is "occult". Remember our opening definition from the dictionary? As such, it is idolatry!" (Source: http://www.a-voice.org/main/numbers.htm)
Beetree--the article above talks about the Knights Templer--something you mentioned in an earlier post.

by GSDtravels on 22 December 2011 - 16:12
This is becoming draining to me, because I've never explained it before and I have to reach into my depths to find the explanations and put into words, the things I've found. I tried before to explain it with colors, making it more elementary. You're getting too lost in the numbers to be able to see what I'm trying to explain, as a whole.
I'll go back to colors and I have a very simple analogy, but it will take me time to write it. I'll put it into a document and post it when it's complete, so I don't get side-tracked and go off on the other tangents. I won't be back until it's done, so it doesn't matter if you respond to this, I won't see it. My explanation will be complete and if you'd like to debate it, feel free. I don't plan on trying to change anyone's mind. We all see things differently and your way is no better than mine or anyone else's, even if your way says so. I'm only trying to add perspective in hopes that there can actually be understanding, tolerance and respect, to an end result of peace.
I'll go back to colors and I have a very simple analogy, but it will take me time to write it. I'll put it into a document and post it when it's complete, so I don't get side-tracked and go off on the other tangents. I won't be back until it's done, so it doesn't matter if you respond to this, I won't see it. My explanation will be complete and if you'd like to debate it, feel free. I don't plan on trying to change anyone's mind. We all see things differently and your way is no better than mine or anyone else's, even if your way says so. I'm only trying to add perspective in hopes that there can actually be understanding, tolerance and respect, to an end result of peace.

by Shtal on 22 December 2011 - 17:12
I' am aware of Biblical numbers and took some lectures long time ago on this subject, but I just don't see big need to talk about.
Shtal.
Shtal.

by Red Sable on 22 December 2011 - 19:12
Good post gg

by Shtal on 23 December 2011 - 03:12
If GSDtravel trying to twist the biblical numbers by saying christians are belong insane asylem; then screw this thread, but if she has something to say that will catch my attention then I might share and discuss here just for the benefit for some.
Shtal.
Shtal.

by Shtal on 23 December 2011 - 04:12
YR, gg, gouda,
Very Nice articles, :-) :-) I liked them!!!!
Regards,
Shtal.
Very Nice articles, :-) :-) I liked them!!!!
Regards,
Shtal.

by yellowrose of Texas on 23 December 2011 - 09:12
Personally , I see no where that Gsdtravels makes any indication I belong in an insane asylum....nor do I see any references period to it about anyone I know.
I hate to clue you in , but people who are searching for truth , like to study different phases of the BIBLE, and if not a home where BIBLE has been taugh all their lives from good foundation up, they why in the WORLD does anyone make accusations .
Please stop it. YOU do not win someone into the Family of God by casting stones..Just because you already know about numbers and colors, do not keep making
GG: I took a few minutes and read about what numberology is...Certainly not in line with our BIBLE teachings and not something I am interested in following..BUT we are not talking about that , or am I posting anything about lining up the numbers of the stars, or planet, AND seeing where I fit in.
THe BIBLE has many interesting things to study and you just do not shake a stick at any person and say "you are going to hell.."" if you do not do this right now.."
I assume I am years older than most on here, and I also assume you know I have spent since 13yrs old studying the BiBLE, learning scripture, and many years of also walking it. NO one is perfect, there was only one...I take offense greatly to calling Gsdtravels names or insulting her. She was a guest in my home for 4 weeks and returned for 2 weeks before heading home to attend the marriage of her daughter.
She knows how I live and lived and she knows what the BIBLE is and she knows my words are only given in Love and kindness. Again , I have many years of winning many women to the LOrd AND YOU DO NOT cram it down anyones throat and you sure do not tell anyone they are the devil or any thing unkind. YEs, you do set all facts in right perspective and there is no way you can missinterpret the scriptures if you are a CHILD of HIS and you have studying for many years. I am not a scholar, have no potients, no magic, no motives, and no intention of preaching. I share facts I like to talk about.. The study of things that are very important in order to understand, do not just come to you automatically. IT takes YEARS to study and learning and along the way ,, if you do ask the LOrd to come into your heart and ask the Holy spirit for guidance, confess and change your life , shedding the old ways, you can learn so much more.
I think the door is open , and of course, you know who says COME IN
I am only studying the BIBLICAL conitation of numbers, so do not ever think I mean to use numbers to guide your life.. GOD has anything you need written in the BIG BOOK for you to live your life by and then if you WALK BY FAITH and NOT BY SITE , you do not need any numbers or colors,,,you just pride yourself in knowing how they work from GODS use of them...and then you can understand how he put all of it in place And as Romans 8:28 says
"And we know that all things work together for the good of them that Love God, to them who are called according to his purpose..
Nothing WILL ever seperate us from the Love of God , which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
BUT to understand how to get there, learning the numbers and colors of the BIBLE can do no harm..If you do not want to answer some man or womans questions about the BIBLE THEN please do not hinder others from sharing
YR

by gouda on 23 December 2011 - 13:12
Y.R,,,,,, GSDtravels wrote-----YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' YET! I'll send you, babbling to the insane asylum, right where you belong!
A question I asked GSDtravels---
So you bieve that bible believing Christians belong in a insane asylem."
GSDtravels replied.
YES
page 44 and 46 of because of evolution theory, by Sthal
gouda
A question I asked GSDtravels---
So you bieve that bible believing Christians belong in a insane asylem."
GSDtravels replied.
YES
page 44 and 46 of because of evolution theory, by Sthal
gouda

by ggturner on 23 December 2011 - 15:12
YR, gouda is right GSDtravels did make that comment in this thread: Can Felloffher name - one advancement in modern science we had because of evolution theory
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