bible is metaphor or fact?? - Page 7

You have to accept people in your life you feel walk the walk and are examples of what the BIBLE teaches..to do that you need to spend each day in the word , reading and studying to show yourself the riches from the word. Jesus walked among sinners and we do to, and if some of our Christian ways does not rub off, then we need to examine ourselves daily.

A persons life should show, by his or hers daily actions...Even though we are human and do err, someone who is serving the Father and is trying to be an example , will definately walk a different walk.

It is hard to have people throw myth sayings, to just post stuff they find on an internet filled with all kinds of people who make MONEY using the BIBLE as their so called handiwork...but GOD knows and in the end , eventually the ones who claim to be , will be found out.. THE BIBLE warns us to watch for the false prophets , and you cannot do that if you never read the BIBLE and do not go to some kind of BIBLE study...and use the wisdom gave gives YOU  not other spouting all kinds of nonsense and pulling things out of this book and this verse and do not know where it came from or to what part it refers to.///

FOR eions and eions, many groups claim to be OF CHRIST WHICH  is what the word Christians stands for..

BUT they do not stand the test so they are not...we need to look at our own lives and quit examining everyone elses...

die to self and if we are not serving the Fathers wishes and living for HIM and trying to share it with others by not tearing them down but building them up, then that is not a Christian way..Disagreeing that ends up in name calling and hate and leads to dishonor , is putting a weight around the Christians neck because he or she ought to know better...there is punishment for doing just that...and it is as if a Millstone is put around your neck and you will surely drown..

But God warns us not to throw Pearls before swine over and over...it does no good...once you hear the word ,then if you do not want to believe it, we should not keep on saying it over and over to the person who does not want to hear it over and over..Not everyone is ready so it is GOD who uses the word Swine..not us..

 

YR

YR - the question was, from your perspective, is the bible allegory/metaphor/stories to teach with or innerrant historical and scientific fact - why is it so hard to get an answer to the question.

""They are obsessed with hatred, bound and motivated by vengeance and revenge.""

Some atheist psychotics, believe that God does not exist and thus they have no one to fear as they pursue their distorted delusions.

That to succeed in negating God's existence atheists play mental games by over-using psychological defense mechanisms which neutralize high levels of mental pain.

The existence of a Creator is the most provable of all realities and that the proofs are many and sufficient. But accepting God’s reality for many atheists also means accepting corollary realities that are too painful to confront. The mind of many atheists protects itself from these realities by rejecting God’s existence. To accomplish this very difficult feat, atheists rely heavily on the psychological defense mechanisms of denial, rationalization, repression, suppression and displacement.

 Why is accepting God’s existence so painful for many atheists?

Accepting God’s existence means accepting a God that permits worldwide suffering to occur on a daily basis, whether caused by other humans or by natural disasters. To some such a God is too painful to fathom, as it is painful to fathom that one’s parent may have done heinous actions.    

         Many feel betrayed by a God who they feel should have protected them and who instead allowed them to come close to extermination. I am referring to the Jews in particular. (52 % of Jews are either atheists or agnostics).

        Some are afraid of God -- the God of the Bible in particular. They have read and heard terrifying descriptions of hell, and they are horrified that they may be deserving of it, because of their sinful ways. Rather than mend their ways, they block out God’s reality -- and consequently hell.

         Some are angry with God by association. They are upset with former fellow believers who may have hurt them. They may be angry at a minister, or a priest who may have hurt or betrayed them. They may also be angry at the hypocrisy of many religious people and transfer their anger at God for allowing it all. They finally punish Him for allowing their pain and disappointment and they do so by negating His existence.

DENIAL: This mechanism is very simple: one simply denies reality and does so with intensity and persistence. There are people who are told by doctors daily that they have a terminal illness. Their way of coping is to deny that it could be true. Atheists do the same: they intensely and persistently deny that God could exist. They block out the possibility and fight it with all their might.

RATIONALIZATIONS:  This is a favorite mechanism of atheists. It is simply the reliance on logical-sounding but false reasons to negate reality. Atheists will offer countless “logical-sounding” reasons why God does not exist, or why they cannot accept the existence of God. They are very creative at doing so, and they specialize in using pedantic language to sound convincing to others and to themselves.  They fool themselves that they are of superior intelligence and that they must be correct in their conclusions. In reality, they are simply rationalizers.

REPRESSION: This mechanism entails forcing painful material into the sub-conscious unconsciously. The person who uses this mechanism is not aware of it. All of existence yells out, "design." Every little detail in nature offers evidence of the Artist’s touch. One only has to stop, observe and see that we are not surrounded by the grotesque, but by beauty, unity and harmony. The atheist mind will not stop and observe and see the connection. If they do stop to look, they will acknowledge the art -- but not the artist.

SUPPRESSION: Suppression is similar to repression, but with one exception: it is conscious.  Science is continually offering evidence of intricacy and brilliance on the Creator’s part. The concept of design is daily being reinforced by all the sciences. Accepting the evidence for former atheist, Anthony Flew, may have been painful at first, but he finally accepted the glaring reality. Most atheists will not. They will consciously “reject” the evidence, without any fair and sufficient analysis.

DISPLACEMENT: This mechanism has to do with transferring feelings from one deserving object to another undeserving one. As explained above, many believers are angry and hurt, because of abuse or mistreatment by religious people or religious leaders. In time, they transfer their anger to God who allowed the events that caused their pain to take place. The end result of this mechanism is to abolish what they see as the ultimate source of their pain: God.

     Having an awareness of these and other defense mechanism is critical in maintaining a level of mental health and of emotional maturity. Over-relying on them to cope with life and specific pains in life can lead to disjointed thinking and emotional immaturity. It is crucial that one develops an awareness of the mind’s proclivity to neutralize pain by relying on these defense mechanisms. It is essential, though, that we recognize that reality must be confronted -- be it painful or not -- and that the causes of the pain must be faced head on, in a courageous, honest and mature way.

Which of the above, if not all, apply to you and your foreign buddy Travels?

Please explain...

 

Neurological research indicates that a particular part of the brain is connected to religious experiences. Perhaps atheists are the product of a genetic deficiency or disorder – and if so, one can only wonder what else is wrong with them. After all, most atheists seem to suffer from delusions of grandeur, convinced that they hold the keys to humanity’s march toward utopia. They are also quite happy to embrace programs to “improve” humanity to suit their own purposes – hardly a coincidence, one would have to suggest, that the most repressive regimes of recent days have all been formulated along atheistic, humanist principles. One can only hope that the possible link between atheism and mental illness is examined honestly before countless others suffer needlessly.

Seek help for you mental illness atheists, your friends here at PDB support you 100%.

Vk, that question has been answered.  You know by YR's posts that she believes the Bible is fact, not metaphorical.  You and your cohorts are just not happy with that answer so you keep pushing and pushing hoping to what?? change our minds?  It ain't gonna happen.

You got your answer, so  suck it up buttercup. :)

Maybe you get no answers because you just made up "inerrant historical and scientific fact."

Thought you were being funny, or at least trying with parody. Who can take anything here serious? That penned piece is more than worth a chuckle.

And once again, projection, name calling, strawmen and derision.  Who's angry again?

That is how you see it? Interesting, the self blinders. That is not a unique quality. Pretty universal, actually.. IMHO it takes a certain sort of intellect to move beyond that average; that is what I have found to be true.

I was responding to ML beetree, not you.

It's a public forum, she can address any post she (Bee) wants...

 

Besides, she was dead on...

 

As RS said, suck it up buttercup...