So the Bible didn't explain dinosaurs which had disappeared 65 million years before it was wriiten, therefore the Bible isn't real?

If that is the basis for your argument you're in big trouble...

LMAO

ML, creationists believe the Earth is 6,000 years old and that dinosaurs walked with men.  Yes, I'd say they're in deep trouble.

The more one USES logic to contest reliance on biblical
texts, the greater the volume of "Blah, blah" that comes
back in response - funnily enough from those who appear
to be content to use logic themselves in everyday contexts.

The Miracle of Israel.  Prophecy fullfilled, from past to present.  Worth a watch. :)

 

What you don't do that really puts a damper on meaningful discussion, is to ask very good questions. It is an utter disappointment that it is such a common occurrence!

You almost started being insightful, I thought, when you quoted me about the word of God. I hinted too, that I wanted to talk about this. It seems odd to me that I need to also include: ...on an idea level. Then what happens instead, is a point-plot revelation with your bias beeming at the center. Sigh. 


These are my questions to you. Why do you think out of everthing a supreme being would use as their ultimate tool, why would they choose their "word"? Why would any human author of a book, or compilations of books for that matter, decide to use such a concept as the ultimate thing to last throughout eternity, as the untouchable, unstoppable force of all forces? 

Have they been successful, do you think? Why or why not?

That conversation would interest me, not diatribes trying to deflect and correct your thinking as you say in "using logic"? I really don't care who is the smartest person in the room here. LOL. It seems rather crucial to others, however.
 

My answer to you, beetree, is that the very term "supernatural" implies that you can know nothing of it.  If it is not within the natural realm, you can muse about anything you like, but it can never be tested, it can never be shown, it can never be agreed upon, ever.  So, what does it matter what anyone "thinks"?  And why waste others time and in some cases, lives, in the process?  You dance around points, flitting, but not hitting.  You never say anything concrete and you then deride others for disappointing you for not asking the right questions.  Instead of being so evasive, why don't you just come out and say what's on your mind?

So the Bible didn't explain dinosaurs which had disappeared 65 million years before it was wriiten, therefore the Bible isn't real?



This is typical response...

And what is your response, all-knowing one?  Why weren't dinosaurs mentioned in the Bible?  When have you seen insects with four legs?

Travels the word dinosaurs wasn't even in existance. It's only come into existance in the last few hundred years, so how could the authors of the Bible use a word that didn't exist?

Answer to the insects with four legs:

Does the Bible Really Claim that Insects Only have Four Legs?

by John D. Morris, Ph.D.

After my recent university lecture on scientific creationism, a student referenced a Bible passage in Leviticus regarding insects to imply that the Bible contained errors and that Christianity and creation thinking are false.

The passage? "Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing, that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth; (including) the locust . . . the beetle . . . and the grasshopper after his kind" (Leviticus 11:21,22). Tucked within a list of dietary regulations for the people of Israel, it refers to a number of animals whose exact identification is obscured by antiquity. But let's look closely.

First, we must recognize that modern day taxonomic categories, like species, genus, family, etc., are not the same as the Biblical "kind." Even the term "creeping thing" finds wide application meaning, in general, small animals which exist in great numbers. In this chapter it is used for insects (v. 21), various small mammals and reptiles (vv. 29,30), as well as animals which "move" in the ocean (v. 10).

Likewise the term "flying" applies both to flying insects and birds (vv. 13-19). Obviously, the context and description must take precedence in identification, and in this case, the "four legged insect" applies, in particular, to the grasshopper/locust kind.

In our modern classification system, all insects have at least six legs. They are members of the large and varied arthropod phyla, which includes also the eight-legged spiders, the multi-legged centipedes, as well as crabs—anything with segmented legs. Some insects also have wings, but these don't count as legs.

Today, locusts are considered migratory grasshoppers. They all have two large hind legs, quite different in appearance, size, and function from the front four legs. Their front legs are used for "crawling, clinging, and climbing," while their back legs rest "above" their front legs and feet, and are used for "jumping." Furthermore, the Hebrew word translated "beetle" actually comes from the verb "to leap," implying a similar leaping insect, not our modern beetle. Thus, the Biblical description of grasshoppers turns out to be exactly anatomically correct. Far from being an embarrassment to Bible believers, this passage bears sterling testimony to the accuracy and inspiration of Scripture. As always, arguments which claim that the Bible is wrong are themselves wrong, and the Bible still stands!

It was interesting that when the student made the claim of the Bible's error, it followed my 90-minute lecture on the scientific evidence for creation. I had not directly mentioned the Bible. The question, as were several others, was a smoke screen——an effort to sidestep the issue. But even if the Bible has an error (which it doesn't), that still doesn't produce transitional fossils, or identify beneficial mutations, or account for the exquisite design in living things. Such diversionary tactics are really a futile attempt to avoid the personal implications of creation.

For if creation is true and the Bible is trustworthy, then the Creator has authority over our lives and lifestyles, and someday we must stand before our Maker and give account for our actions and choices. And that is the real issue. No smoke screen can cancel that appointment.